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Post by RyRy on Aug 26, 2018 11:45:28 GMT
Ferrari has the superior car this year, Hamilton has been the difference. By every measure it should be Ferrari ahead but it's not. 9 more races, let's see how it ends but pole today was due to the rain, otherwise I think it would have likely been a Ferrari lockout. What Seb needs to do for the rest of the season is keep a damn cool head, and be comforted by the speed of the Ferrari. If we see repeats of Azerbaijan last year, Singapore last year and Hockenheim this year, then Hamilton will take the title in a slower car, which will look very bad on the Scuderia. I'm still convinced they are doing something dodgy / in a grey area in regards to their energy recovery / usage because they have such a big advantage on the restarts / start of race / first lap of a qualli run.
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Post by LewEngBridewell on Aug 26, 2018 11:52:09 GMT
It may be advantageous for Vettel to still be second after Turn 1, as he'll have the whole run right down to Les Combes.
Having said that, he tried that twice last year, and kept opting for the outside on entry, which never really worked...
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Post by RyRy on Aug 26, 2018 11:59:21 GMT
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Post by racechick on Aug 26, 2018 12:04:14 GMT
I heard Vettel in an interview afterwards talking about pole and potential pole etc. And he said something like ....mmm Lewis had the better track position. 😱 Well he didn’t. Vettel went last and the track was getting faster. Hence the Force India’s getting up. Vettel had the best track position but he can’t hack the rain. This was on Channel4 UK tv. Is he stupid enough to say that? I doubt it, was there any dubbing on the audio? Lol Vettel is a bit of a d!ck and a hot headed clown, but is he a dumbass as well? Okay, I’ve looked the interview up and he didn’t say that you’re right. But there was a sort of implication of it. I couldn’t remember it exactly. What he said, when asked about the pole run was... “we didn’t Time it great”. heres the clip..
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Post by dogued on Aug 26, 2018 12:36:32 GMT
I think he was meaning the team overall fucked Q3 badly. Nothing was ready for the swap, Kimi wasn't fueled enough, and in general they timed everything wrong.... except having Seb as last man over the line. That was right, but he fucked it.
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Post by Hammer on Aug 26, 2018 13:20:12 GMT
Why was Hamilton so freaking slow on Kemmel?? Even the Force Indias were killing him!
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Post by Hammer on Aug 26, 2018 14:20:01 GMT
Man that fucking ferrari is quick.
Hamilton messed up his best and probably only chance early on during the SC restart. Stepping off the gas probably just isn't in his DNA.
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Post by Hammer on Aug 26, 2018 14:35:36 GMT
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Post by dogued on Aug 26, 2018 14:46:49 GMT
Credit to Seb, he made an overtake and kept it on track. Lewis couldn't do more than 2nd, as was indicated in FP1 FP2 FP3 Q1 and Q2. Max drove a solid if totally unremarkable race in 3rd. Bottas nice drive through to 4th, would have expected nothing less in that car.
Overall, I think the only thing that I got from that race was: a) Charles is thankful for the Halo now. b) Grosjean's radio guy could explain why he's always nodding off mid race... that guy could put a cocaine fueled energizer bunny to sleep.
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Post by Frontrunner on Aug 26, 2018 15:03:52 GMT
That Ferrari is going to kill it around Monza. Merc need to find something or hope Ferrari keep bottling it.
My highlight of the race was when Brundle said that Alonso's McLaren was like a Orange getting peeled.
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Post by Hammer on Aug 26, 2018 15:11:36 GMT
Lewis' face when he got out of the car is like "this is the position I'm gonna be in next week as well."
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Post by Liam Catterson on Aug 26, 2018 23:20:38 GMT
This race happens but it is in 2017. Everything is how it plays out. Except with one major alternative. Charles Leclerc is killed.
It's not a pretty sight to read, far from pleasant. But after that incident, which I assumed before looking at the image of the Halo, I was thinking that surely the Halo played its part in protecting Charles from Alonso. After seeing the heavy scrap on the Halo, I came to the conclusion that had this happened in 2017 or any year prior, that incident would probably have killed Charles. Now of course, this is all based on the assumption because we can't see a What If reality unfortunately because there'd be many I'd love to see but, it is evident that any dismissal about the necessity of the Halo is shut down, no matter the opinions because it played its part in this race and with its assistance, it prevented a certain but not total confirmation, fatality to Charles.
I bring this up because A). There's not much to discuss about this race tbh and B). People are still debating the fact that the Halo is needed in F1 when I look at all the images and I bless the fact we have the Halo in F1 and am opening the floor to other thoughts. Sure, it's not fancy and it loses its appeal on cars but looks aren't everything and lives are more important. The Halo wasn't scratched, it left a big impact and I am just glancing at the conclusion that Charles would not be here if this race was last year (Actually, it would be Wehrlein who wouldn't be here but you get the idea) and I am not changing my thoughts from here on. Because it hurts thinking about Bianchi, pain would be added by losing Charles.
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Post by dogued on Aug 27, 2018 23:56:22 GMT
Interesting listening to pure audio onboard both the Ferrari and the Haas. The Haas de-rates earlier than the Ferrari. Now, teams are supposed to have the same level of physical parts, so this is 1 of 2 things: 1) Software. Ferrari have worked a software miracle and managed to get more life from the MGU-K than any other team. 2) Fuel. Shell have come up with a faster burn so the car hits V-max early and the MGU-K can run slightly reduced for longer.
This is why at a longer track like Spa, Ferrari's advantage is so much higher. Mercedes had de-rate issues in the past, and from what I understand, have since changed slightly the way the MGU-K deploys. This gives them less de-rating on the longer straights, but could be affecting the initial traction.
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