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Post by dogued on Apr 20, 2016 8:12:18 GMT
Good for them! It's insane that a vital part of driver safety (tyre stability) is restricted in testing ability.
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Post by racechick on Apr 23, 2016 11:22:59 GMT
It seems the teams are close to an agreement on the 2017 rules despite Horner saying that they were miles away last weekend at the Chinese GP " But Mercedes F1 boss Toto Wolff said the manufacturers were "pretty much there" and sources close to the manufacturers say this is a more accurate representation of the reality." ( than Hirners statement. The hybrid engines are here to stay despite Ecclestones disapproval. The manufactures say F1 should be the cutting edge on engines, Ferrari are insistent on this too, Here's a real success statistic regarding the hybrid engines. "until 2013, F1 engines - and pretty much every other petrol engine - had converted fuel-energy into performance at about 29% efficiency. After just over two years of racing in F1, the new turbo hybrids are close to 50% efficiency - and over it when the energy recovery system is on full deployment. The progress is breathtaking - and the technology will soon filter into road cars, with obvious benefits. And tyres! They have to be fit to be raced on. HOORAY!!! " - Tyre degradation should be proportional to performance, so the less grippy a tyre is, the longer it will run before it starts to degrade. -When a car is closely following another, its tyres should not degrade to the extent their performance cannot be recovered." Lots lots more in this article by Benson. www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/36099501 |
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Post by Wß on Apr 23, 2016 13:48:12 GMT
I read that on the BBC yesterday, the devil is in the details but the framework is there. On a side note, as if Red Bull could smell more than they did last year. Two days ago, stories on how they're going to be challenging Ferrari because if the progress they've made with the Renaul... erm, Tag Heuer engine. Today Helmut Marko on how keeping the 2017 regulations unchanged with the same current standard engines is killing the sport.  |
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Post by racechick on Apr 23, 2016 16:26:22 GMT
Sounds though that red bull are well out of kilter with all the other big boys........and bigger boys.
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Post by dogued on Apr 24, 2016 5:17:51 GMT
Finally, common sense in Formula 1! The teams have agreed to give Pirelli 25 "car days" of testing. 5 teams will provide modified 2015 cars for the second half of this year so Pirelli can gain real world data on the 2017 spec tyres.
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Post by Hammer on Apr 24, 2016 5:28:13 GMT
Question is who are these 5 teams. To be fair, maybe allow the last five teams in the WCC to give their cars and race drivers for Pirellis use.
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Post by Wß on Apr 24, 2016 14:08:58 GMT
If I recall there's multiple testing at first there will be the five teams with the altered bodywork (that costs money) and then there's going to be access to all teams once the new rubber is out. What I'm hoping for at this point is the bigger rubber is released and they scrap the aero changes.
More mechanical grip on the current cars is what's needed to help in following the lead cars.
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Post by racechick on Apr 24, 2016 15:17:34 GMT
Yes! That's what we need. Proper tyres, more mechanical grip, less aero. Bingo! Red bull will love that like a hole in the head!  But it does sound like the new regs are going some way towards it. Like WB said, scrap the aero and more mechanical! |
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Post by Wß on Apr 27, 2016 16:40:07 GMT
We'll find out soon enough what comes of all this. Self interest abounds from all sides, and in the end both the fans and drivers aren't getting what they've been asking for years now.
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Post by Wß on Apr 28, 2016 16:22:26 GMT
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Post by LRW on Apr 29, 2016 7:08:46 GMT
In action it looks much bigger and wider? To be honest in the below image I think it looks pony.  |
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Post by LRW on Apr 29, 2016 8:24:58 GMT
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Post by RyRy on Apr 29, 2016 8:33:16 GMT
I think it's incredibly ugly, not as bad as Ferraris one but still ugly
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Post by Hammer on Apr 29, 2016 11:13:29 GMT
Terrible. Disaster. Sickening. Pick any of these, I'd pick all 3. Ugh, way to destroy an entire Formula 1 car with 1 piece of glass.
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Post by Wß on Apr 29, 2016 11:57:41 GMT
The ultimate way to go is a clear canopy like a fighter jet. But it's F1 so...
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Post by Hammer on Apr 29, 2016 17:04:27 GMT
And what about heavy rain. I get they could make that glass disperse water like the helmet visor but drivers already find it hard looking through a dripping visor, and in front of that they have a dripping piece of glass as well.
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Post by Wß on Apr 29, 2016 17:53:42 GMT
Rain X will become a sponsor. I think at 200 Kph wind in a rainy situation, I think the water will pretty much nonexistent.
On the regulations from though, we got this. No surprised and a lot of what had already been agreed upon but the net result is that we're sticking with the current engine regulations for quite a few years to come. I'm glad to see that.
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Post by Wß on May 23, 2016 15:26:17 GMT
I saw this a bit back but now that the 2017 regulations are going forward as is, it's more a worthwhile watch. Don't forget to add the halo or canopy or whatever they decide to go with.
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Post by Wß on May 28, 2016 14:59:48 GMT
Can you dig it? YES I CAN!  F1Fanatic -Pirelli has revealed a mock-up showing how next year’s wider tyres will look on an F1 chassis. Next year tyre widths will increase by 25%. The front tyres will increase from 245mm to 305mm and rears will increase from 325mm to 405mm. Formula One’s official tyre supplier has already begun testing new compounds for the 2017 season. However it will not begin track testing of wider tyres until the new year. The Pirelli demonstration car does not include 2017 bodywork dimensions. |
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Post by Frontrunner on May 28, 2016 15:14:56 GMT
That car is just all tyre hey!, looks like where going back to intimidating looking F1 cars.
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