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Post by Wß on Jul 18, 2017 16:17:08 GMT
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Post by Hammer on Jul 18, 2017 16:22:54 GMT
How many times has Lewis won here again, 7?
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Post by Wß on Jul 18, 2017 16:32:53 GMT
Just five... he could have won like 8 or so though
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Post by London on Jul 19, 2017 10:30:00 GMT
no surprise.
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Post by Wß on Jul 19, 2017 12:09:30 GMT
Would have been interesting to see them bring the US, I guess heat may be a concern.
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Post by Frontrunner on Jul 19, 2017 13:35:30 GMT
I'm missing something, What's with the 'GIRLS' thing in opening post WB.
You implying that Hungary is the land of hotties??
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Post by stonemonkey on Jul 19, 2017 16:46:06 GMT
I'm missing something, What's with the 'GIRLS' thing in opening post WB. You implying that Hungary is the land of hotties?? You haven't heard what goes on in the woods around the hungaroring?
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Post by Wß on Jul 19, 2017 17:08:10 GMT
no surprise. a two stopper race for sure, especially after what we saw at Silverstone.
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Post by Wß on Jul 19, 2017 17:10:47 GMT
I think this is a must win race for both Ferrari and Vettel, the pressure has been mounting and IMO there's more pressure on Vettel than there is on Ferrari. Compounded by his recent behavior, three outbursts for three races now, it's a must win for him. One, because he doesn't want to go into the recess without the championship lead it would be a moral defeat. Two, because it would be seen as a clear demise of the Ferrari resurgence of 2017. Not good optics all around.
Arguments about what track suits what car, till we're blue in the face one driver is going into a circuit where he feels absolutely at home, just as much as in Canada. The other driver is going into a pressure cooker. This is what makes or breaks people.
Hopefully we can get a head to head battle instead of one where grid penalties determine the outcome from the start.
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Post by London on Jul 19, 2017 23:57:34 GMT
Since the circuit is used in the height of summer, reliability is often a problem. Retirements are common due to cars overheating and engine failures. I just hope that will not be the case and influence the championship battle also but anyways. To me the hungaroring is a very difficult circuit which penalizes every mistakes from the drivers as every corner affects the next one, so clinical driving will be recommended. Also find the right set up will be a real target for each team, more for some than other. If Mercedes manages to start in the right direction from FP1 to FP2 and find the perfect set-up for the whole lap. It will be an Hamilton x Vettel fight for the pole. During the race Vettel will have a chance to undercut Hamilton maybe because of the rear tyres of the Mercedes which appear to be a little problem sometimes and here you need to look after the rear tyres, otherwise you end up with no grip and reduced braking. I do hope Hamilton will take the championship lead at Hungaroring. It is a necessity to put more pressure on Vettel and Ferrari just before the break. It is time for Hamilton to win another race in a row. That should have been the case after the Canadian grand prix in Baku but unfortunaltely, it didnt happen. And to maintain the dynamic of victory for the Team Mercedes. Here James Allison after Silverstone : (find this on a Mercedes fan Twitter) The last sentence means aero update I guess.
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Post by Frontrunner on Jul 20, 2017 13:26:38 GMT
I'm missing something, What's with the 'GIRLS' thing in opening post WB. You implying that Hungary is the land of hotties?? You haven't heard what goes on in the woods around the hungaroring? Done my research. I now see why Budapest get healthy turnout each year.
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Post by Wß on Jul 20, 2017 13:35:09 GMT
I tried to be subtle... with a sledgehammer. In any case though, what do you think of the RB's chances to play spoilers here? It's a track that's all about medium speed turns and doesn't require a lot of power. Basically just keeping your speed up into the next set of turns.
It's also going to be insanely difficult to overtake here. If Verstappen gets ahead of Vettel, he's in trouble. Pole and being in front at turn one is supremely critical here. There will be multiple pit stops though so a couple of chances to undercut people.
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Post by Frontrunner on Jul 20, 2017 13:43:35 GMT
With Ferrari... Idk, can't see them winning at Budapest, Mercedes has gone up a gear. Perhaps hot temps at Budapest could play a role. Most teams are coming with big updates to Budapest so will look forward to see the gaps between teams.
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Post by Frontrunner on Jul 20, 2017 13:53:58 GMT
I tried to be subtle... with a sledgehammer. In any case though, what do you think of the RB's chances to play spoilers here? It's a track that's all about medium speed turns and doesn't require a lot of power. Basically just keeping your speed up into the next set of turns. It's also going to be insanely difficult to overtake here. If Verstappen gets ahead of Vettel, he's in trouble. Pole and being in front at turn one is supremely critical here. There will be multiple pit stops though so a couple of chances to undercut people. I can be a bit slow like that.. oh well. As for Red Bull, they will have upgrades, in the past this track has served RB quite well so they could easily be a nuance to Ferrari, no doubt about it. Ferrari can't afford to get stuck behind either Verstappen or Ricciardo around this track.
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Post by Hammer on Jul 20, 2017 13:55:11 GMT
I see Verslappen as the constant thorn in Ferraris shoe from now on. He's the guy who took of a piece of front wing from Vettel in Canada, and also the guy who pushed them to the limit of strategy in GB. And he seems to share a bit of my intense hate for Ferrari in a way, in the way he goes racing with their cars. I'm really starting to like the guy.
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Post by Wß on Jul 21, 2017 12:53:03 GMT
I see Verslappen as the constant thorn in Ferraris shoe from now on. He's the guy who took of a piece of front wing from Vettel in Canada, and also the guy who pushed them to the limit of strategy in GB. And he seems to share a bit of my intense hate for Ferrari in a way, in the way he goes racing with their cars. I'm really starting to like the guy. Max Verstappen says he does not take Sebastian Vettel's complaints "seriously" anymore given the Ferrari Formula 1 driver's recent controversies. Vettel complained over his team radio during the British Grand Prix that Verstappen was moving under braking as they battled for third place in the opening stages of the Silverstone race. Afterwards Vettel described his Red Bull rival as "a bit jumpy" when defending a position. But Verstappen says Vettel's recent behaviour, including the clash with Lewis Hamilton behind the safety car in the Azerbaijan GP that took him to nine penalty points, means he need not be listened to. "I don't take that seriously," said Verstappen when asked about Vettel's comments. "Especially not after all the things he did. If you look at the penalty points that he's got... "The fight with Sebastian was good. It was hard but fair, I think. "That little bit of contact maybe not, but for the rest everything was OK." Autosport
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Post by RyRy on Jul 22, 2017 7:19:19 GMT
This track is normally pretty telling for how the rest of the season will go.
Teams that perform at Silverstone and then perform at Hungary usually a really really good job in the remaining races.
Mercedes have been comfortably faster in the last few races, if they can beat Ferrari at this vastly different type of track then I suspect they'll comfortably win most of the remaining races.
It kind of needs Bottas to beat Ferrari even if they're faster because Hamilton should really be faster because he is the king of this track.
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Post by London on Jul 23, 2017 17:49:50 GMT
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Post by racechick on Jul 23, 2017 19:35:17 GMT
Lewis is king of Silverstone................. Also king of Hungary!
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Post by dogued on Jul 24, 2017 12:52:27 GMT
London I thought THIS video (well, audio) would be better
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