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Post by Wß on Mar 10, 2018 22:46:01 GMT
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Post by London on Mar 10, 2018 22:54:34 GMT
I am the only one who find McLaren's communication disastrous ? I understand the principle of aggressive concept to refind the top of the grid but not after three seasons of suffering. Their current image shows an average car that is not reliable. They largely blamed Honda, going as far as breaking their contract to show how bad they was. After changing the livery for Honda, they again changed it for papaya to show that it is a new era that begins (unnecessary thing). A propaganda documentary is out on Honda 'trying' to show McLaren in its best light. The whole communication of that documentary basically says: We come back to fight against RBR, minimum.
Tests start. They run after time to put it on the top of the screen to save their face but no one is fooled. They can not put the blame on their engine since 2 other teams ride with no worries. So they minimize the problems. Saying that these are minor problems when these problems have broken two engines, that the car is constantly overheating, that it encounters repeated oil leaks. If these problems were minor they would be quickly settled. The problem of cooling is very representative of the team: Renault is motorist for decades, so they send all the keys elements to their client. It is impossible that they forget to say important elements such as the need of cooling etc. Aggressive concept or not, the management of cooling is a priority in the concept of a formula one car. How you can neglect the needs of the engine to improve the chassis hence the technical problems. Why they cant learn of their mistakes ? Boullier is drinking too much wine. And mister potatoes doesnt care about the sports results at all, the only thing he cares is about the business side. Thats why he talk too much on 2021, the board at McLaren saw an opportuny with LM to regain financiary which why Zack Brown is there. I dont see another reasons.
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Post by London on Mar 10, 2018 23:14:04 GMT
So If I understand correctly and based on his analysis, it should be a walk in the park for Mercedes this season ?
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Post by Wß on Mar 11, 2018 1:45:33 GMT
So If I understand correctly and based on his analysis, it should be a walk in the park for Mercedes this season ? It depends on who's battling for which race, but it's clearly not just going to be Lewis and Vettel wining, Red Bull will be taking wins from Ferrari for sure.
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Post by Wß on Mar 11, 2018 1:50:20 GMT
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Post by RyRy on Mar 11, 2018 9:37:02 GMT
The Mercedes being dominant is pretty much what I expected, they already had the most reliable engine so with the max engines dropping to 3 it makes it even easier for them as other teams will have to either detune their engine or take a penalty sometime in the season.
Mercedes decided to do something not enough companies do... a brand new redesign. A total redesign of the engine which is a little risky but they clearly know how to make an top class engine and already have blueprints of an engine that works very very well and if the redesign was to go wrong they could just fallback on their old engine design.
They had to fix the "diva" in their old car which was already arguably the best car and that shouldn't be that hard for them to fix.
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Post by Wß on Mar 11, 2018 15:38:53 GMT
The "diva" last year was because of the suspension restrictions placed before the second test. Mercedes I'm sure has more changes in their suspension than they have outside the car, I'm scared for the other teams.
They just have to cut the whinning and make a great car, they changed the regulations to try to derail Mercedes and it's done nothing but extend their lead.
I think 2018 will be like 2015 for Hamilton and Mercedes. Ferrari is in serious trouble with their fuel consumption, and Red Bull was just as fast around the twisty parts of Barcelona as Ferrari, even with their Renault PU detuned.
Haas is looking strong but they'll fall back over the course of the season, I think Renault will be 4th this year, not McLaren.
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Post by RyRy on Mar 11, 2018 22:44:17 GMT
The order I think it'll be is:
Mercedes Ferrari Red Bull Renault McLaren Hass Force India Williams Toro Rosso Sauber
Tha
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Post by Frontrunner on Mar 12, 2018 12:00:12 GMT
I sure hope we get a 3 way going this year, how awesome would that be, nothing beats a good 3 way.
Although like you guys, we know that Merc have that little bit up their sleeve for now, but i do feel the gap is within arms reach and that Merc can get reeled in throughout the season with further development of the cars. Well thats what i'm hoping for anyways.
I think Red Bull can do it and put up a serious challenge to Merc this season, idk I'm probably too optimistic and Merc will probably keep both RB and Ferrari at bay once again.
Time will tell, Hurry up Melbourne!
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Post by Wß on Mar 12, 2018 12:29:36 GMT
It's up to Renault and how much they can develop their PU overt he season. Red Bull is using different fuel they feel is an advantage and the times in Barcelona Red Bull were quicker than Ferrari on the curves, so the question becomes how detuned was that engine?
Hamilton confirmed they didn't run low fuel on any stint, so how close to the clouds Ferrari flew during testing becomes the question.
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Post by Frontrunner on Mar 12, 2018 13:51:37 GMT
Those pesky engines, How much of a key they'll play this season. I think with Renault already planning out using 4 PU's per car during course of the season is clever, not ideal of course but I know their reasons, better to decide that now to plan the season out better, just using 3 PU's is going to be quite testing for everyone including Merc. So many questions to be answered this season.
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Post by Wß on Mar 12, 2018 14:14:49 GMT
This is a rough translation from AMuS done by a member (Phil) over at F1Technical.
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Post by Frontrunner on Mar 12, 2018 14:46:40 GMT
The AMuS pecking order is pretty close to how I'm predicting it to be going into Melbourne, my only change is to just swap Haas and Renault IMO.
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Post by Wß on Mar 12, 2018 14:49:27 GMT
I think ultimately Renault will out develop Haas, they'll finish off the year 4th. Force India will have to fight hard get 6th place this year, they run of 4th is sadly looking like it's over.
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Post by London on Mar 12, 2018 16:50:42 GMT
Such a shame Haas doesnt have a Jorg Zander in his pocket to keep up with the development during the season. They could possibly fall behind Sauber in the second half at this point.
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Post by London on Mar 12, 2018 17:01:21 GMT
If the aero package they bring in OZ is good I think FI could challenge Renault more or less easily. Experience and Mercedes engine could help as well. The way Renault operates as a team could be a major factor too unless they made improvement on this side.
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Post by London on Mar 12, 2018 17:36:06 GMT
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Post by Wß on Mar 12, 2018 17:49:32 GMT
With all the talk against the long wheelbase of Mercedes last year, interesting to see Ferrari try and gain some of the efficiency to the rear diffuser by adding overall length. With both Red Bull and Mercedes continuing on the same evolutionary path of their car last year.
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Post by London on Mar 12, 2018 23:37:44 GMT
It will be a little prowess if they can make a high rake concept featuring a longwheelbase work as Mercedes couldnt figure how to make it work with the W08 which is why they adopted the low rake concept I believe.
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Post by London on Mar 12, 2018 23:42:00 GMT
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