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Post by racechick on Jul 8, 2015 0:01:53 GMT
This lady has had it. She has the biggest fake boobs in the world. I don't know what she was thinking when she went for this particular look,,but each to their own.  |
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Post by RyRy on Jul 8, 2015 0:21:04 GMT
Oh my gosh, stupid woman. They look nasty!
I'm pretty much against cosmetic surgery in terms of boobs, butt and to an extent the face...
When it comes to boobs seriously pretty much all boobs are awesome... regardless of their size, shape, symmetry. For me personally there isn't a "too small" but there is "too big" which starts to come into effect at like D cup, anything bigger I don't find as attractive. I'm more of a B/C cup kinda guy. So I really don't see the need to have your boobs enlarged with surgery, I know a girl who had hers done and I've got to say they look rather hideos because they look so fake and they just feel wrong (yes, I and pretty much everyone who knows her has had a squeeze lol)
Breast reduction I agree with this for both genders, more so for males than females.
As for butts... in all circumstances these are ridiculous, but then again I'm not really an "ass guy" so I don't understand the appeal of them.
When it comes to facial cosmetics, the only sort of things I agree with are things like a rhinoplasty if they have a crooked nose, a large nose and they just want it straight and a bit smaller but again too small just looks stupid.
Face lifts/eyelifts/lip augmentation... etc again sometimes they look okay but most people go way over the top and they look like they are in pain with the skin being far too tight.
Liposuction and other things to do with being obese I agree with only if they've sorted their diet out and exercise enough to remove
Hair transplants, I agree with if they're having balding problems.
I know a guy who had ear surgery as a child because he had sticky out ears, this is another one I agree with because I can understand how kids get bullied with this and how it could get caught/ripped on things much easier.
I think I covered everything that I know of... anyone else know of others? (I'm not going to go into genital cosmetics)
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Post by Hammer on Jul 8, 2015 4:56:42 GMT
I'd definitely go for it when they have mastered installing sharp retractable claws in between your knuckles.
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Post by racechick on Jul 8, 2015 6:42:56 GMT
I think the woman in the photo looks ridiculous and wonder at the ethics of doctors who will perform an operation like that. I think generally boob jobs look fake and wouldn't want one. And I get really cross about people having them on the NHS 'because they're depressed about their body'. Get over it!! Or save up and pay for it yourself. Lipo? Go on a diet and get down the gym. If someone has cosmetic surgery to rectify problems from an illness or accident , then that's fine, and it's great that doctors can do such impressive reconstructive surgery, like Katie Piper. Her boyfriend threw acid in her face , she was a model. She's still beautiful , though you can tell she's been burnt. She now presents a programme where she tries to persuade people not to have tattoos, Boobjobs, ear stretches etc and she matches them up with people who've had these things and now regret it. She comes over as such a lovely person, that adds to her beauty. i must confess it's a tempting thought if a not too invasive process can turn back the clock fifteen years or so, and guarantee you won't look like your standing in a wind tunnel. But I think I might be too scared. this is Katie  |
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Post by RyRy on Jul 8, 2015 6:52:38 GMT
Medical grounds for sure but for fat people nope
Same goes for gastric bands they should only get it if they do a significant part of the work by diet and exercise and then be reassed, if they can't lose it but aren't over eating and are doing enough exercise then fine, give them a band.
That Katie girl is very sweet and she is spot on with everything she says, I saw one of the episodes round someone's house and she talks a lot of sense. She is surprisingly attractive considering her face and chest was pretty screwed up with the acid attack. She wears tons of makeup though, I don't blame her and she doesn't look dreadful with the makeup so well done in that sense.
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Post by Wß on Jul 8, 2015 10:52:36 GMT
We pay entirely too much attention to appearance but that may never change in humanity. We have the technology to make plastic surgery an option for most nowadays but it's nothing new. Think about body altering techniques that are centuries old, like foot binding in the east or elongating necks in certain African tribes or teeth sharpening in in Amazon tribes.
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Post by Hammer on Jul 8, 2015 11:00:28 GMT
I think the woman in the photo looks ridiculous and wonder at the ethics of doctors who will perform an operation like that. I think generally boob jobs look fake and wouldn't want one. And I get really cross about people having them on the NHS 'because they're depressed about their body'. Get over it!! Or save up and pay for it yourself. Lipo? Go on a diet and get down the gym. If someone has cosmetic surgery to rectify problems from an illness or accident , then that's fine, and it's great that doctors can do such impressive reconstructive surgery, like Katie Piper. Her boyfriend threw acid in her face , she was a model. She's still beautiful , though you can tell she's been burnt. She now presents a programme where she tries to persuade people not to have tattoos, Boobjobs, ear stretches etc and she matches them up with people who've had these things and now regret it. She comes over as such a lovely person, that adds to her beauty. i must confess it's a tempting thought if a not too invasive process can turn back the clock fifteen years or so, and guarantee you won't look like your standing in a wind tunnel. But I think I might be too scared. this is Katie DONT.DO.IT. |
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Post by LRW on Jul 8, 2015 11:35:31 GMT
..... And I get really cross about people having them on the NHS 'because they're depressed about their body'. Get over it!! ..... [offtopic] RC - I would agree that giving people cosmetic surgery on the NHS is not a good thing, and that giving people with body issues surgery will NOT help the underlying body issue. However I would have to pull you up on the "Get over it!!" statement. IF they do have true body issues (not just "ooh I feel fat today"), and they are actually suffering from depression - they will not "just get over it". Depression is a serious mental disorder. And to make a statement like that is very dismissive and belittling of people with such a disorder. I know it was an off the cuff remark by yourself - and was more focused on the point about free cosmetic surgery - but this is an issue that I feel very strongly about - and it frustrates me when its spoken about in such an off-hand manner. [/offtopic] |
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Post by Wß on Jul 8, 2015 11:41:11 GMT
Obviously surgery is not the answer when a mental disorder is the in question, but I couldn't agree with you more LRW. I think mental disorders for us as a society are so difficult to comprehend or even accept.
But a person suffering from a mental disorder, depression, body dismorphia or even something more common like an OCD or autistic spectrum diagnosis is just as real as a cancer. Telling someone with cancer to get over it is not the right thing to say, but society in general does have a tendency to say that to people with mental disorders.
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Post by RyRy on Jul 8, 2015 13:44:24 GMT
Some good points there LRW, however with over half of the obese people their issue is lazyness, poor diet and poor exercise and even poor will power. I can't find the study doc from a university at the moment but basically it showed that it was something like 75% we're not related to mental illnesses, which left 25% which is still a HUGE number of mental illnesses, but 10% to I think 15% percent of those gained depression and various other mental illnesses after becoming obese, which in return made them even bigger.
Regardless of the latter part, 25% of obese people having mental illnesses is a huge problem and you're both right they are difficult to understand and accept.
Way too many people just dismiss those problems which makes it ten times harder for the person with the problem to make any headway to getting their life back. Hospitals, doctors and GPs need way more training with mental illnesses (don't call them disorders) and society needs to recognise them.
I am more than understanding when it comes to depression, body dismorphia, I think only one of you knows (now all) but I suffer from both in varying degrees amongst other things. (Not going to go into it publicly)
So yeah, my thoughts.
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Post by LRW on Jul 8, 2015 13:54:59 GMT
RyRy - I am totally with you - I am sure that a lot of people with weight issues is laziness/diet/no exercise/will power - that is the one and only reason for my weight issues.
And you are spot on with depression following weight gain, which makes weight loss harder, which means more weight, etc etc...
I'll be honest, I know this sounds like back-tracking - but I have never phrased it as mental disorder before, always illness. But for some reason I thought that was the non-pc term - so I changed it!!
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Post by RyRy on Jul 8, 2015 14:18:31 GMT
A lot of people struggle with weight for the same reasons, I'm all for and agree with doctors being blunt with these people when it comes to weight but they need to only do it when they've ruled out mental illnesses
Yeah, it becomes a vicious circle but with some support those with that depression can solve both the depression and the obesity.
A lot of people inter-change the two words because that's what they're used to hearing, I know though some people get offended/upset and feel worse if is regarded as a disorder. I can't see why personally but I also agree it's not a disorder but an illness.
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Post by LRW on Jul 8, 2015 14:26:36 GMT
I find the term "mental" more of a struggle than "disorder". Either way - the stigma attached with either term is still far too high in this country. Just because it is within the mind, and not a physical illness, does not mean it is any less debilitating...
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Post by racechick on Jul 8, 2015 16:44:01 GMT
When I said 'depressed about their body' I was not meaning it in the sense of real depression. I know that's a mental illness and I'd already said I was excluding people with illness or accident from my comments. I was meaning it in the sense you use as follows...
' I find all this rain really depressing' or ' no matter how much I cut the cabs I don't get any thinner, it's so depressing' etc etc etc.
However, Treating someone with real depression and subsequent dissatisfaction with their body by giving them a boob job is treating the symptom and not dealing with the illness. I know people who suffer from real depression and I also know someone who has had a boob job on the NHS. It's the latter I have little time for especially when the NHS is hard pushed to fund cases of genuine illness both physical and mental.
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