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Post by Wß on Aug 17, 2015 13:34:23 GMT
Cindy Crawford's husband cheated on her. Jenifer Lopez's husband cheated on her. Christie Brinkley's husband cheated on her. Sandra Bullock's husband cheated on her.
I think it's a relatively common practice.
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Post by ang44 on Aug 17, 2015 13:37:31 GMT
Cindy Crawford's husband cheated on her. Jenifer Lopez's husband cheated on her. Christie Brinkley's husband cheated on her. Sandra Bullock's husband cheated on her. I think it's a relatively common practice. Are they all divorced now?
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Post by Wß on Aug 17, 2015 13:47:06 GMT
Cindy Crawford's husband cheated on her. Jenifer Lopez's husband cheated on her. Christie Brinkley's husband cheated on her. Sandra Bullock's husband cheated on her. I think it's a relatively common practice. Are they all divorced now? Sadly, yes. I know it's not an absolute, but monogamy as a general rule of thumb is not and should not be universally expected bu either sex. It takes two to tango so it's not like women are wholly innocent of the fact. I'm a very much live and let live supporter but the fact that currently the majority of all marriages end in divorce says to me that 10 we're not doing a good enough job picking a spouse in the first place and 2) not doing enough to work through the worse part of the for better or worse portion of the vows.
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Post by Hammer on Aug 17, 2015 13:51:56 GMT
Let alone the beautiful chicks (*Toto removes his ring*) haha And when he's got Susie waiting at home for him! He'd be a fool.
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Post by ang44 on Aug 17, 2015 14:34:45 GMT
Are they all divorced now? Sadly, yes. I know it's not an absolute, but monogamy as a general rule of thumb is not and should not be universally expected bu either sex. It takes two to tango so it's not like women are wholly innocent of the fact. I'm a very much live and let live supporter but the fact that currently the majority of all marriages end in divorce says to me that 10 we're not doing a good enough job picking a spouse in the first place and 2) not doing enough to work through the worse part of the for better or worse portion of the vows. I think the part they should leave out of the vows...should be about keeping yourselves for each other, this would save a lot of high expectation on the being faithful scale. But then Marriage is outdated imo, people stay together because they want to, important thing is if there are kids from the relationship, better to have two happy parents that live apart, than two miserable gits, who cannot stand the sight of one another. People change as they get older, sometimes they grow apart
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Post by Hammer on Aug 17, 2015 16:04:11 GMT
I have a couple of friends who's parents sleep in the same house but different rooms. Like, they have their own lives and just come back to the same roof.
For f*cks sake, why torture yourself and the other party that way?
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Post by Wß on Aug 17, 2015 18:01:44 GMT
For some I guess it comes down to money, apparently divorce is very (or can be) very expensive.
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Post by ang44 on Aug 17, 2015 18:09:56 GMT
I was going to look on the Non F1 threads...for this discussion, I'd forgotten this stuff was on Lewis' thread. I expect he's been practicing his starts...& got a new clutch
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Post by racechick on Aug 17, 2015 18:31:44 GMT
I hope he has a new clutch! I hope they have a clutch that can handle F1 starts. If the clutch will handle it I have every confidence that Lewis will..........as to the other discussion......no comment,
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Post by racechick on Aug 17, 2015 19:37:03 GMT
Cindy Crawford's husband cheated on her. Jenifer Lopez's husband cheated on her. Christie Brinkley's husband cheated on her. Sandra Bullock's husband cheated on her. I think it's a relatively common practice. Doesn't mean it's a good practise.
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Post by Wß on Aug 17, 2015 19:57:31 GMT
Oh I know and agree. It's a decision each couple has to make and live with and be comfortable with. I know people that are absolutely miserable together but won't get a divorce because of the financial complexities of it. I don't think I'd ever allow that to happen to me, where I'd sacrifice my happiness to save a buck.
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Post by racechick on Aug 17, 2015 20:03:00 GMT
It's never that simple
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Post by Wß on Aug 17, 2015 20:03:22 GMT
I think that there are also a lot of societal "expected norm" types of behaviors that are simply not one size fits all. The biggest laugh out loud thing here with the whole marriage equality thing we've just gone though it so many of the social conservative politicians screaming loudly about the sanctity of marriage and marriage being between one man and one woman, yet they've had three divorces and don't see anything hypocritical about that.
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Post by pistnbroke on Aug 17, 2015 20:55:57 GMT
As someone who has been married and divorced.
Divorce is expensive, and why? Because it is worth it. My divorce was quite cheap in the scheme of things because she said "you can have everything apart from my Friends DVD'S, and roller skates" it still cost about 3k in total.
As for how do I feel about marriage now? Well it is just and expensive days, and at the end someone gives you a piece of paper. (Plus you know you will get your end away that night as well)
As for Fidelity, now that I am older I think it is the done thing and you should finish one thing before you start the next. When I was younger I was a bit more lacks on that front.
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Post by Hammer on Aug 18, 2015 9:56:55 GMT
Huh. I didn't understand your last sentence... All I believe in this matter is that fidelity is becoming a rarity nowadays. Is it social degeneration? Or it it simply the power of communication like fb, instacrap, wechat, tinder and other shits like this which provides easy attraction and faster communication between people? What if all this social tech was available 50 years ago, the institution of marriage might have be obsolete by now. IMHO. Personally I value the idea of marriage and fidelity but I keep hearing about horror stories of people around me on almost a weekly basis and makes me feel it's almost too late for the current generation already.
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Post by Wß on Aug 18, 2015 12:00:43 GMT
I don't buy the "current generation" line. Jack Kennedy was shtupping Marylin Monroe in the White House for crying out loud. Have any of you watched mad men? Infidelity is as old as marriage.
This is coming from someone that's been married for 25 year, so I have some experience in the matter. I think that a husband and wife, as long as they long as they genuinely love one another and a are looking for the same things in life, have similar ideals and are generally pulling their yoke together... they will succeed.
Every marriage goes through ups and down and believe it or not INFIDELITY is not the primary cause of divorce. Growing apart, falling out of like, losing respect arguing about money or other things tend to be the root cause. Infidelity is a symptom not the disease.
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Post by RyRy on Aug 18, 2015 12:31:28 GMT
I had a conversation with a girl who's dating a guy who I was very good friends with throughout school about marriage as they have been dating for about 5 years now. She's exactly the same as me and seemingly a growing number of young people who aren't that bothered by the idea of getting married and would actually prefer not to get married because of the whole divorce situation. If they were to lose interest in one another then there wouldn't be months of divorce shit to deal with, simply move on nice and easily. Sure it may well make you a little more vulnerable to being cheated on but if some asshole cheats on you then fuck them, find someone who truly loves you and can ignore the temptation of others. I've not been married obviously but the girls who I have been in relationships for months / years have all eventually cheated... I don't do second chances for shit like that; you fuck up and it's the end. I'd rather not have the hurt of trust being broken and all the rest of it and then on top of that have to deal with a divorce. Hammer, what is "wechat"? I've heard of facebook, instagram and tinder but not wechat. You're probably right though the technologiy will certainly play a big part on it but also so will the fact travel is much easier. The world is becoming more and more diverse every day, back 50 years ago people wouldn't be able to easily hook up with someone from the opposite side of the world, nor would they be able to easily hook up with someone at the opposite side of the country yet now it's very easy to mix genes and make the global gene pool much more diverse. It's actually beneficial to the gene pool to have children with someone who has several generations in a different country. If you take a look the the gene types across the UK there is a clear pattern showing that certain gene types area more concentrated in the same area but it is starting to change and we're seeing more and more change, this is a small map of a study done in 2011 and you can see some pattern but it's not that clear: i.imgur.com/8hnvric.pngA better example is to go into blood types which shows it very easily: i.imgur.com/HqWaB8g.jpgOr look at an indigenous American gene and it's spread as of 2001: i.imgur.com/OkFGxBW.pngThere is actually a really good point made in this one where Uzbekistan/Turkmenistan are there shouldn't really be a hot-spot of gene concentration in the middle of nowhere unless it is remote/not many places to travel to/not easy to travel which in this case is true.
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Post by Wß on Aug 18, 2015 12:41:20 GMT
There's quite a bit of studies done that prove women are more sexually promiscuous when ovulating. Their desire for a stable and providing home relationship is in charge the majority of the time. Enforces the gene dispersion evidence.
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Post by pistnbroke on Aug 18, 2015 13:17:29 GMT
Hammer my last statement sort of said I tries to be a big a slut as I could when I was young.
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Post by racechick on Aug 18, 2015 13:35:30 GMT
RyRY, wechat is a bit like whatsApp. You can send texts, pictures, videos and have live chats all for free. I think it's possibly more in Asia? May be wrong. Folk I know in China use it a lot. I've got it on my phone and my iPad, but I can't get into it on the iPad. To log in it tells me to go to the wechat main page and scan in a code ....but I can't go to wecgat main page because I can't get in without scanning the code. but it works on my phone.
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