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Post by racechick on May 16, 2015 7:24:41 GMT
Time for a little controversy. Did Mercedes hand this one to Nico? Not for any reasons of Favouritism or Germanism, but because Nico's confidence had Lewis won again would have taken a further dive and left him vulnerable to Vettel and thus weakened the Mercedes team and its ability to dominate? What if they'd left Lewis out after his second stop? He had track position and his tyres were good. What if they'd let him push harder at the end? It seems the radio conversations to both drivers were quite revealing. Nico was assured when he saw Lewis ahead that he was on a different strategy and was racing Vettel. Could they then having said that to Nico, let Lewis stay out and beat him? Read the first three slides of the Bleacher report , then take a look at the interview with Peter Windsor. The Windsor interview is quite a long one but is interesting when it gets to the part regarding the Mercedes drivers. bleacherreport.com/articles/2461854-5-of-the-most-interesting-radio-messages-from-spanish-grand-prix
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Post by CookinFlat6 on May 16, 2015 7:53:49 GMT
Good article, very good point. Many clues towards this being the case, not least the fact that had Lewis been in a different team to Nico, he would have been switched back to a 2 stopper once he had track position over Nico and Seb as a result of brilliantly driving as fast on the prime as they were on options. Nico behind Lewis on tyres many laps older (like Bharain 2014) would not have been able to pass a Lewis who would gain more had they crashed out while he was defending from Nico - so no chance of Nico overtaking. So in that case its obvious that Lewis took one for the team and Nico was allowed to go unchallenged driving his airhead without a worry or thought or need to show better racecraft than he ever has.
So there is no question Nico got a gift from the team, however the clue is that it is a team, and notwthstanding how much they were allowed to race last year, this year Lewis is clearly the number one in terms of prospects and expectation and so, like gifting Ferrari a win and an engineer, gifting Nico a win is better for the team than the likely mess that would have happened with a peed off and indignant Nico angry and armed with a Merc but zero finesse - likely to crash instead of allow Lewis to bitch slap him once again by 'stealing' his airhead win
The biggest clue is that we know Nico was desperate and would be soon resorting to some 'point proving' exercise to disrupt Lewis with Monaco coming up it makes sense for the team to fix the win rather than let Nico scam it himself and probably mess it up much worse
Its all Lewis' fault anyway, why didnt he just crash Nico out as soon as he turned up behind him? Just crash Barbie out every single time he comes close and Lewis wins the WDC
Only someone with real shit for brains would really think Lewis somehow drove worse than Nico in the race or that Nico somehow had all the answers during the race. Lewis was faster as usual and apart from the start, pit stop and strategy, that run on the primes had all the commentators shocked.
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Post by Wß on May 16, 2015 13:35:56 GMT
The loss for Lewis was in bigger part his fault for the poor start (which we rarely ever see from him) he put himself back into a position for a win only because he drove fantastically once on the primes but there was nothing to be "lost" by leaving Lewis to finish the race on primes. He could have attempted to finish and win on those tires. Make Nico overtake him. Don't know who or why that happened but it robbed us of some pretty fantastic potential fireworks IMO.
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Post by racechick on May 16, 2015 13:46:00 GMT
There are quite a few of those 'shit for brains ' people about. One, who I wont mention, believes Lewis got 'tonked' by Rosberg and it happened because Lewis had been 'globe trotting'. Anyway, back to reality. If Mercedes did do that (and the terminology in that radio exchange with Lewis was odd, the tone of it was almost saying, ' look, your just gonna have have let him have this one') I can understand their position as a team. But as a driver I can also see Lewis would be insensed. It's on little things like that that championships can turn it be decided. I think Lewis will have some points to make at monaco, but he',, make them Hammerstyle not Nicostyle. And one other point. Was ROSS, Nico's race engineer being very clever when he gave Nico that message about who Lewis was racing? Doing his bit for his man?
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Post by racechick on May 16, 2015 13:57:21 GMT
The loss for Lewis was in bigger part his fault for the poor start (which we rarely ever see from him) he put himself back into a position for a win only because he drove fantastically once on the primes but there was nothing to be "lost" by leaving Lewis to finish the race on primes. He could have attempted to finish and win on those tires. Make Nico overtake him. Don't know who or why that happened but it robbed us of some pretty fantastic potential fireworks IMO. Well one reason it may not have happened is because Mercedes didn't want it to. Coming back to the start. Yes Lewis had wheelspin. Nico had a great start . And Lewis didn't get quali right, so he put himself in that position if you like. Now the start. There's very little Info on it but Merc had a new clutch. I believe but not sure, it was to aid Nico's starts which haven't been good this season .,nico referred early in the weekend to ' we have a new clutch so that should be good' . Lewis made mention of the fact that they both had the same clutch. Lewis didn't find the sweet spot with the clutch in his practise start and real start. Now the interesting part. They didn't have the same clutch. When questioned in the post race press conference nico said briefly that after quali he switched to the 2014 clutch. lewis was very careful in his tv interviews to refer only to wheelspin, but he did say it was something they needed to talk about.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on May 16, 2015 21:34:52 GMT
Haha, its funny but out there, its only the confirmed 'manure insulated neuron connector' brigade amongst the h8rz, who have jumped up to declare Lewis was outraced for the first time in near 10 races because he actually didnt win, despite evidence he was held back and despite evidence he drove much faster than Nico and despite a gap caused by Seb at the start he more than made up for all the above by using a prime tyre upto 1.5 seconds beyond all computer projections and was willing and able to win the race yet backed off in the interests of 'who knows what' As for the 'globe trotting' bottom feeders - the reason Lewis is such a great champ is that he has the extra capacity to be a champion on track as well as off - raising F1s profile in a number of different places between races. No other champion so far had this etra capacity. Take Seb, to win the WDC in a 2 sec car, he had to spend all his time at the tyre factory and at the team HQ swotting and practising. Ofcourse the better you are the lss capacity you nee to beat the other chumps on track, leaving you time to be a champion and bask in the glory. Put it this way, Button spends his time preparing for activities inn a way that competes with F1, he could get his yellow ankles damaged by jogging around these charity events, and lets not forget how dangerous the normal off time activities of others like MS, Kimi, Kubica are. Never mind lets just say Lewis hanging out with Ice cream and other rappers is gonna DISTRACT him - just to make the shit for brain clingons com out of hiding for a whole 2 weeks!!
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