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Post by Wß on Jun 26, 2015 18:54:28 GMT
Why can't they leave Lewis with last years clutch if this one doesn't work? Because it's an integral part of the transmission therefore part of the package that gets homologized. Something with the release mechanism... I read something a bit ago where Lewis was talking about it. Let me see if I can dig it up. |
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Post by Wß on Jun 26, 2015 18:56:19 GMT
Here's the detail.
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Post by racechick on Jun 28, 2015 8:40:40 GMT
Seems a bit unfair that they've changed it to help Nico and hindered Lewis.
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Post by Hammer on Jun 28, 2015 9:59:41 GMT
Austria was the first time this year that Nico has had a better start wasn't it? I can't recall another time he beat Lewis off the grid. Plus in Austria it really looked (to me) like Lewis had a slightly slower reaction time off the line, something Brundle mentioned as well.
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Post by racechick on Jun 28, 2015 10:56:02 GMT
Spain. And it was the clutch in Spain.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jun 28, 2015 18:08:20 GMT
Austria was the first time this year that Nico has had a better start wasn't it? I can't recall another time he beat Lewis off the grid. Plus in Austria it really looked (to me) like Lewis had a slightly slower reaction time off the line, something Brundle mentioned as well. According to Merc, it wasnt a slower reaction than Nico to the first clutch action, but a delay in being able to begin the second clutch action as the revs caused by the first were much higher than desired - so initial reaction was not the problem, dumping the second clutch without wheelspin was - so an abnormal setting was at fault as opposed to driver controllable error - as I interpreted it |
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 6, 2015 10:32:40 GMT
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Post by Hammer on Jul 6, 2015 11:19:07 GMT
I don't get why either driver would want to have a different clutch system from the other. If I were in their shoes, I'd understand the other guy is my biggest threat and I'd want to be on level footing on every aspect without risking harbouring a disadvantage.
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Post by Wß on Jul 6, 2015 11:23:19 GMT
Mercedes should ask Williams about the clutch they're using.
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Post by racechick on Jul 6, 2015 12:59:20 GMT
I SOOO want to post that elsewhere!!!! (Devil smilie) |
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 6, 2015 13:41:11 GMT
I SOOO want to post that elsewhere!!!! (Devil smilie) It does rather change the whole complexion of this seasons lewis vs Nico performance 8-1 in quali is a royal drubbing In race performance terms, discounting for issues outside the drivers control then its 5 - 1 (removing Monaco and Austria) and Lewis has won half of the last 4 races, or put another way, Nico has won 1 of the last 5 races on merit. Even more damning is the fact that Nico is yet to pass Lewis on track on merit And all those who said (Damon, that you?) that Nico had gained an advantage by Lewis skiving of from testing have confirmed that Nico will need lewis not to take part in FP1,2 and 3 to have half a chance on merit Maybe those stats are wrong tho, maybe its Merc favouring Lewis by supplying a clucth worse than Nicos  |
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Post by Wß on Jul 6, 2015 13:53:13 GMT
What are you going to do? Delusion is one of life's poisons.
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Post by RyRy on Jul 6, 2015 15:57:43 GMT
4/5 votes to Hamilton for the best driver at Silverstone... :O
^ Anyone guess who said that... my reply was:
lolololol, Apart from the fact that Hamilton re-gained 1st place in the dry... and Rosberg I'm sure would have eventually got past, especially if like Mercedes thought that the Williams' tyres would go off.
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Post by racechick on Jul 6, 2015 17:12:08 GMT
LOL. Nice one RyRy. I knew it would be one of three people, I picked the wrong one. I love the BBC link! That just puts so many things to rights!
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 6, 2015 18:40:31 GMT
What I dont understand about idiots who reckon Nicos speed on options in the 5 laps in the rain was significant - as though it was a race winning factor, or that it panicked or forced Lewis into the pits is why they dont explain the speed difference once both were on inters in the rain?
Surely if Nico was suddenly a much faster driver than Lewis in the wet, then he should have been even better on the tyres made for rain? But Lewis dusted him on same tyres - pointing to anyone with half a brain that it was previously due to the CONDITIONS of the tyres
Its amazing how a certain F1 fan automatically clings to those 5 laps as proof that the remaining 10 would have been the same
Why dont people actually bother to learn about F1 - its more fun surely
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Post by RyRy on Jul 6, 2015 18:59:42 GMT
Anyone with a brain could see that anyone who was in clean air lost tyre temperature and pressures, anyone sitting behind other drivers close in tow didn't lose tire pressures and temperatures.
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Post by Wß on Jul 6, 2015 19:50:14 GMT
Well Specifically Lewis said he said he set his car up for dry racing with induced understeer which why he lost the pressure. Additionally running in front with no one ahead meant running through standing water and the "unknown" factor which is where cars following benefit.
Nice had a window of opportunity to make ground and ground he made up indeed. However it was a lose lose proposition for him and the ONLY opportunity he had was in front of him.
If it stayed dry Lewis would won
If it rained more, Lewis made the right call by getting into the pits at the right time and he won.
If it stayed semi wet like is was for about a dozen laps Lewis was still running ahead and Nico would have been stuck behind the Williams.
An accident or a Kimmiesque pirouette on Lewis' part would have handed over the victory to Rosberg, but when even the weather is on your side it's going to be pretty difficult to win a race against the guy on home turf.
When a win falls on Rosberg's lap, it's skill. When Hamilton makes the right call it's luck. That's just how some people are goign to see it no matter how you slice it. I'm okay with that.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 6, 2015 20:30:04 GMT
Even if Lewis had stayed out and the rain stayed the same and Nico overtook, Lewis would have been right behind and would have got past just like he did in the rain at the race last year when he spanked Nico silly
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