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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 21, 2015 19:45:13 GMT
Latest alleged salaries Observations; Sebs signing on bonus not included, Alonso is in great shape, poor Ricc must be on a win bonus ouch, Mclaren will ditch Button, Lewis next year will comfortably be the highest earner. Mehri, dear me, the average fan makes more than him lol Ferrari could have Bottas+Ricc+Hulk+Max+kyviat+Sainz+RoGro+Perez all together for less than Kimis wage, or they could quadruple Bottas' current pay and still have 10mill to pay off Williams www.crash.net/f1/news/221215/1/f1-2015-driver-salaries-published-but-who-earns-most.htmlDrivers: 1. Fernando Alonso McLaren-Honda €35m 2. Sebastian Vettel Ferrari €28m 3. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes €25m 4. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari €18m 5. Nico Rosberg Mercedes €13.5m 6. Jenson Button McLaren-Honda €10m 7. Felipe Massa Williams €4m = Nico Hulkenberg Force India F1 €4m = Sergio Perez Force India F1 €4m = Romain Grosjean Lotus F1 Team €4m = Pastor Maldonado Lotus F1 Team €4m 12. Valtteri Bottas Williams €2m 13. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing €1.5m 14. Daniil Kvyat Red Bull Racing €750,000 15. Max Verstappen Toro Rosso €250,000 = Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso €250,000 17. Felipe Nasr Sauber €200,000 = Marcus Ericsson Sauber €200,000 19. Will Stevens Manor €150,000 20. Roberto Merhi Manor €50,000 What the F1 teams spend on drivers in 2015: 1. Ferrari €46m 2. McLaren-Honda €45m 3. Mercedes €38.5m 4. Force India €8m = Lotus F1 team €8m 6. Williams €6m 7. Red Bull Racing €2.25m 8. Scuderia Toro Rosso €500,000 9. Sauber €400,000 10. Manor €200,000
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Post by Wß on Jul 21, 2015 20:26:53 GMT
Ferrari are a joke when they pay Kimi the salary he's making for the results he's had. Two years ago everyone was screaming to hire the Hulk, or Bottas, or Kobayashi or sadly bring Bianchi on board as I remember arguing with Spankthemonkey about. Any one of those drivers I'm confident would have given Ferrari the same if not a better outcome of results for 1/5 the cost.
I guess when you get 90 million just for showing up, you can throw money away nonsensically and rationalize another day.
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Post by LRW on Jul 21, 2015 20:28:08 GMT
20. Roberto Merhi Manor €50,000 Wtf?!?? That's £35k. Thirty. Five. I'm in shock. But hey. He gets to drive an F1 car for his career.
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Post by Wß on Jul 21, 2015 20:31:02 GMT
20. Roberto Merhi Manor €50,000 Wtf?!?? That's £35k. Thirty. Five. I'm in shock. But hey. He gets to drive an F1 car for his career. It's not that bad, he supplements it with an additional €2,000 a year for sponsorship and appearances.
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Post by racechick on Jul 21, 2015 21:03:39 GMT
McLaren Honda , only 1 mil off top driver salary........and Kimi's' huge salary's in the top one! That's insane!!
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Post by RyRy on Jul 22, 2015 0:06:47 GMT
I never understand the whole wage thing, I would pay my drivers equal amounts. I seriously think the FIA should impose a max salary (monitored to prevent teams giving money on the side) and if I was a team like Mercedes I would only be paying £5mil, if they want more... fuck off elsewhere.
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Post by Hammer on Jul 22, 2015 3:58:00 GMT
I never understand the whole wage thing, I would pay my drivers equal amounts. I seriously think the FIA should impose a max salary (monitored to prevent teams giving money on the side) and if I was a team like Mercedes I would only be paying £5mil, if they want more... fuck off elsewhere. This is a field rich with ego and self love. If Massa the "8 second world champion" was paid as much as Bottas, you can bet he would've flooded the Williams garage with tears. And if a team like Mercedes had invested so much to get such a beast, and then employed a 5mill driver who doesn't make use of the car (losing a couple of wins, couple of podiums maybe but still World Champ), it's still considered a big loss. They want the very best to break records, and make catchy tag lines to sell their cars globally. And I forgot where I read it, but apparently Mercedes' global revenue of 4 days is enough to pay Lewis his current salary. You can understand then, why they pay as much as they do. They expect results, and are willing to pay for them. Of course Ferrari is another story, paying off a driver millions to not drive the next year, and now paying a has-been 18mill and getting back squat, its just poor business by poor businessmen. It's why these clowns haven't done sh!t in F1 except in that little period when actual businessmen (Todt/Brawn/Schum) were running the ship.
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Post by racechick on Jul 22, 2015 5:13:21 GMT
Market forces RyRy. The big teams want to hire the best available as a statement of intent. And the best drivers want their worth to be recognised relative to their peers. Similar drivers on similar salaries yes, but I don't think a rookie who's yet to prove himself should get the same as a multiple world champion.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 22, 2015 7:44:27 GMT
I never understand the whole wage thing, I would pay my drivers equal amounts. I seriously think the FIA should impose a max salary (monitored to prevent teams giving money on the side) and if I was a team like Mercedes I would only be paying £5mil, if they want more... fuck off elsewhere. If you are to be seen as a top team, and a top seller of cars, then you need a top proven star in the car. Not only for the maximum result you are guaranteed, but for the kudos that goes with it. you would rather have a Lewis in your tent pissing out than him outside pissing in. The salary is part of your marketing balance sheet that you recoup in various ways. It like when you go into a private bank and the lobby is all marble and top quality - you feel more reassured to pay their inflated charges. Or an iphone and its fancy packaging makes you feel better about the same phone than if it was delivered in a plain paper bag. If Merc want to be seen as the best, then they would be embarrassed to be seen as paying peanuts for monkeys no matter how good their car is. Thats the kind of thing you would expect from a drinks company that has hidden height adjustment levers in the cockpit Only a team run and supported by retards would hire lame drivers on top wage AFTER paying them of for being lame
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 22, 2015 19:39:46 GMT
As we ponder the figures and realise Lewis next year will be on the highest ever F1 salary whilst in the most dominant car in F1 history, it could be an opportune moment to look back at what the expertz said when he chose Merc
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Post by racechick on Jul 22, 2015 21:51:14 GMT
Oh what a lot of short sighted people!!! They should have listened to us! McEvoy, the usual biased prick at his hateful best, and a heard of sheep following. Only Weaver of the Guardian seems to actually give some reasonable thought to the situation.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 22, 2015 23:41:27 GMT
Alonso was prophetically spot on the poor chap. As for mcEnvy, how much egg on face can one twat wear? He was basically saying that Lewis should have been punished hard for twitgate and therefore stayed at Mclaren. Apparently Twitmarsh was too nice and lenient and got repaid by Lewis leaving anyway hahahaha what an absolute cock
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Post by Wß on Jul 23, 2015 12:08:54 GMT
To be fair, it's nothing different than what a few delusional tiffosi said.
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Post by Wß on Jul 23, 2015 13:51:44 GMT
Talk about a fucking head up ass idiot comment on another forum.
Lolzers... Ferrari could have been spending 3.5 million euros and still be comfortably coming in 3rd or fourth as they have been the last few years. Irony is difficult to see when there's blind hatred in the way.
I love it.
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Post by LRW on Jul 23, 2015 14:13:00 GMT
ESPN?
Dont worry, I found the offending idiot.
Now what is it you always say to me WB.....?
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Post by Wß on Jul 23, 2015 14:23:31 GMT
ESPN?Dont worry, I found the offending idiot. Now what is it you always say to me WB.....? Take your head out of your ass? IDK? I say lots of things to you! I know, I know. Heed my own advice.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 23, 2015 14:35:51 GMT
Thats on par with the duck who said Lewis had no effect on Mercs marketing and sales, and that Nascar drivers had bigger global appeal Yes I am sure every forum has its overspankedmonkey that cannot work out that the guys writing the cheques at Merc probably took a lot of things into consideration first. But when one is use to the spaghetti western wild west way of doing things, then it could appear as tho other people pay off lame drivers then re-employ them on a higher wage for worse results. And sack their most talented engineers for being Italian because they have decided foreigners are better than their on lolzers edit: just realised the duck is not on ESPN but on retardsrus.com hahaha - this part says it all hahaha - Ferrari, who waste their money on aero, who wasted the extra 100mill they spent to catch up to Merc (should have just given the money to Williams and begged them not to improve) yup as expected in any decent Sergio Leone western, the bad guy always gets spanked and his loser followers applaud the artistic way in which he gets spanked Lets look at those numbers again - Ferrari in 2015 have spent 70million on drivers (only a monkey pleasurer would forget Sebs signing on fee) for 211 points, and Merc have spent 38mill for 371 points. So the pasta chuckers have spent 3x per point more than WINNERS Merc, yet they have no one to blame but themselves No wonder there is so much debate on perve-site-camouflaged-as-F1.com
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Post by racechick on Jul 23, 2015 18:18:31 GMT
Im glad Im not the only one who noticed the rank stupidity of that comment about Merc Kicking themselves. Jeez was that for real? Yep Merc could have signed Bottas and Ricciardo, and they'd probably have done a fine job. But Merc want the best, so That's what they paid for. Merc want to sell cars...as well as win. Now who out of F1 circles has heard of Bottas? Or Ricciardo? No one. Who has heard of Lewis Hamilton? Well all of Wimbledon, all the music scene, all the dog lovers, all the fashionados, etc etc etc. Kicking themselves? Merc must be laughing all the way to the bank!! Now if we're talking about kicking themselves I think Mr. Comequickly might be doing a bit of kicking, at the hiring and firing and rehiring and looming firing of one very expensive driver. And McLaren, Ron must be black and blue at his outlay to remain a tail end Charlie. He could have had Stevens and Mehri and STILL been at the back of the grid. Ok he has Alonso for kudos, to show intent. We are serious players! But Button? What's the point of paying him 10 mil. That's the kickable offence! Oh come on! I have to go say ......no...no...no I don't! ........do I?
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Jul 23, 2015 20:05:03 GMT
RCs gonna school em again, lets see how many times the mea culpa can be twisted and changed shamelessly Yeah Merc are kicking themselves for spending money to win, but Ferrari are expected to spend 3 times the amount to come third, and in lalaland combustion engines dont have sparkplugs And they dont understand how 2 drivers in the same team can be on different salaries but allowed to RACE each other without Ferrari style FIFTY
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