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Post by CookinFlat6 on Aug 13, 2015 20:56:31 GMT
We shall soon find out. I don't really care if there are slow starts, that will simply spice up things. What I'm afraid of are stalls up the grid blind to those at speed behind. that must be a mathematical certainty, the more chance of stall-like gettaways, the more chance of the bad old days - unsighted cars going smack into static cars, add some rain and low vis, it could be a retro case of wtf were they thinking of, when weighing up the pros and cons Mid season change that invites extra collisions unless each team has similarly assimilated the new regulation - lets hope it does work out with more excitement but no crashes
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Aug 19, 2015 11:52:12 GMT
From Maurice Hamilton ESPN
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Post by racechick on Aug 19, 2015 16:39:56 GMT
That's brill!!
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Post by racechick on Aug 19, 2015 18:58:39 GMT
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Post by pistnbroke on Aug 19, 2015 22:40:08 GMT
We shall soon find out. I don't really care if there are slow starts, that will simply spice up things. What I'm afraid of are stalls up the grid blind to those at speed behind. that must be a mathematical certainty, the more chance of stall-like gettaways, the more chance of the bad old days - unsighted cars going smack into static cars, add some rain and low vis, it could be a retro case of wtf were they thinking of, when weighing up the pros and cons Mid season change that invites extra collisions unless each team has similarly assimilated the new regulation - lets hope it does work out with more excitement but no crashes Might be some safety car starts to help in bad weather.
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Post by racechick on Aug 22, 2015 8:59:52 GMT
A great article here by Buxton for the likes of me who is not particularly technical. A very good explanation in simple terms of how the start and clutch rules have changed. And it's not quite as Id thought. Control hasn't been handed to the drivers, because these clutches aren't capable of allowing that. What's changed is that once the bite point has been chosen and set, and the car left the pitlane, the dial which sets that bite point cannot be touched. The driver actually does exactly the same as he's always done at the start, and any start line issues will be no more down to the driver now than they have been before. willthef1journo.wordpress.com/2015/08/21/clutches-and-race-starts-for-dummies/#like-2199Now that's the sort of technical article I like!
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Post by Wß on Aug 23, 2015 14:45:21 GMT
So I guess out initial poll was accurate. One big loser from this new rule is that there were NO cars out on the start grid and no drivers to really interview as everyone held to the pit because of the set point issue.
If we're talking about promoting F1, let's cut out one of the most exciting and hectic moments of the race weekend.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Aug 23, 2015 15:36:25 GMT
Nico was on the radio discussing the start with hi engineers right up to the cut off point, yet screwed up. He says the clutch got too hot - the same thing that happened to Lewis after the extra parade lap in Hungary, yet Professor Tossberg still managed to get caught out.
Yup our poll was spot on, anything requiring driving skill plays to Lewis
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Post by Hammer on Aug 23, 2015 15:40:11 GMT
Prior to this race weekend, Rosberg said the new start procedures "provides additional opportunities for his title fight against Ham". I lol'ed then and lol'ed again when he "took the opportunity" to fall to 5th.
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Post by racechick on Aug 23, 2015 15:46:22 GMT
Me too! lewis aced it! He said in an interview that he prefers it when engineers aren't yakking in his ear in the formation lap. He says he's thought about things, memorised things and likes having more control.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Aug 23, 2015 16:06:31 GMT
Lewis has to get pole each time and hope to be ahead of any mayhem, and even if he drops a place or 2 needs to keep clear of any desperadoes around. It will be very very good for Alonso - he will gain places all the time, Button I think will lose places even more than before. A special word about Alonso, 20th - 12th on the start, including his own teammate, who to be fair then tagged along and overtook a few cars. Alonso truly is a special driver (on track) And after Button going on about how good his qualy was yesterday after Alonso had said he wasnt really gonna do any real qualy laps - Alonso was quick to point out today that he started behind Button and trounced him by 40 seconds 40 SECONDS And all of a sudden Button is now saying the car was bad, no ers, etc etc, he is so cut up that he got his arse handed to him by Alonso, Im sure next time round he will be more careful about crowing
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Post by RyRy on Aug 23, 2015 18:44:57 GMT
The team confirmed that he had an ers problem, every time he went through bus stop / went up the hill he lost all the power and was losing a lot of time every straight.
Regardless of that they both did very well at the start, they split to either side of the track and gained 4 and 6 places. (Without the 2 who started in pits/retired) So to be fair to button he didn't do that bad
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Aug 23, 2015 19:42:19 GMT
Both drivers had Ers charging problems and the speedtrap numbers were pretty much the same. But maybe Button was more vocal because he was behind Alonso, or maybe his problems manifested worse than Alonsos through the bus stop
The main problem with the Honda Pu is that the ERS doesnt harvest or store enough energy thru the lap, so they are ok at starts but during the race there is too much strain on the turbo which is also too small. So both cars are basically short most of the elctric energy other teams have thru the race
Ferrari had a similar problem last year but they fixed it over the Winter and got a bigger turbo. McLaren are screwed till Honda do the same for next year as they dont have enough the tokens left.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Aug 23, 2015 21:22:41 GMT
Button on Quali
Alonso on the race
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