Post by CookinFlat6 on Sept 23, 2015 11:57:13 GMT
According to Bernie, Arrivabene was wrong when he said Ferrari, unlike Merc were not 'afraid' of competition (maybe he meant not scared of unequal competition)
However it now appears that someone is refusing to put their money where their mouth is, RBR are now insisting on a contract signed that guarantees parity with engines, fuel, electronic maps, everything.
And Bernie has put Sergio on the spot by placing 'the future of F1' into his hands as his decision decides if 2 teams leave
Ferrari team principal Maurizio Arrivabene insists the Scuderia would not be “scared” to supply engines to rivals Red Bull after Mercedes pulled out of any such deal.
The Bulls are set to end their partnership with current supplier Renault a year early, with the French manufacturer struggling to provide a power unit which can match that of Mercedes and Ferrari in either the performance or reliability stakes.Mercedes reportedly held talks with the team over a potential deal, but opted not to offer their competitors the best engine on the current grid.Ferrari are the only remaining option for the former World Champions, with the struggling Honda committed to McLaren. Team boss Arrivabene has perhaps launched a subtle jibe at Mercedes by claiming that Ferrari are not afraid of a little extra competition.
The Bulls are set to end their partnership with current supplier Renault a year early, with the French manufacturer struggling to provide a power unit which can match that of Mercedes and Ferrari in either the performance or reliability stakes.Mercedes reportedly held talks with the team over a potential deal, but opted not to offer their competitors the best engine on the current grid.Ferrari are the only remaining option for the former World Champions, with the struggling Honda committed to McLaren. Team boss Arrivabene has perhaps launched a subtle jibe at Mercedes by claiming that Ferrari are not afraid of a little extra competition.
However it now appears that someone is refusing to put their money where their mouth is, RBR are now insisting on a contract signed that guarantees parity with engines, fuel, electronic maps, everything.
Marko said that Red Bull could not accept a situation where it was getting second-rate Ferrari engines.
"If it were a few horsepower less we would not be concerned. But in the end you can check that very easily with the GPS data and other parameters to see what you really get," he said.
"The truth is that the engine - the hardware - is not the real issue. That is the software and the same fuel."
He added: "If we don't have a competitive engine there is no future in F1 for Red Bull Racing. The curtain may go down after Abu Dhabi.
"If it were a few horsepower less we would not be concerned. But in the end you can check that very easily with the GPS data and other parameters to see what you really get," he said.
"The truth is that the engine - the hardware - is not the real issue. That is the software and the same fuel."
He added: "If we don't have a competitive engine there is no future in F1 for Red Bull Racing. The curtain may go down after Abu Dhabi.
And Bernie has put Sergio on the spot by placing 'the future of F1' into his hands as his decision decides if 2 teams leave
Ferrari chairman Sergio Marchionne is "frightened he is going to upset his team" should he decide to supply Red Bull with engines, according to Formula 1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone.
Ferrari has emerged as Red Bull's only option to continue in Formula 1 next year as the Milton Keynes-based organisation is to split with current supplier Renault at the end of this season, while Mercedes has decided against a deal. Ecclestone has confirmed initially brokering an agreement between Ferrari and Red Bull, although Marchionne has expressed the same concerns about doing so as did his counterpart at Daimler, Dieter Zetsche. The fear is with a clearly improving Ferrari power unit in an aerodynamically well-designed Red Bull, the customer would potentially be stronger than the works team.
"For Formula 1, he [Marchionne] would love to do it, to get Red Bull competitive with an engine, but he doesn't want to damage the team he runs," Ecclestone told AUTOSPORT. "If Red Bull get engine then they are obviously going to be competitive, it's an obvious concern, but he's frightened he's going to upset his team. "It's now down to Sergio to make up his mind, and I'm sure it will be sorted out shortly one way or the other."
Red Bull owner Dietrich Mateschitz - who is prepared to pull his two teams out of F1 if they cannot get competitive engines - revealed at the weekend talks with Ferrari have so far been "positive and encouraging". Ecclestone says Marchionne is aware of the pressure on his shoulders as to lose two teams and four cars from the grid would damage Formula 1. He also feels Marchionne's concerns would have been further raised by what unfolded during the Singapore Grand Prix on Sunday in which second-placed Daniel Ricciardo pushed race winner Sebastian Vettel to the chequered flag. "It didn't help too much with the performance of Red Bull in Singapore," said Ecclestone. "Ferrari will say 'Well, what about if they had our engine?' because Red Bull challenged with an engine that is well down on power. "So Ferrari are concerned about Red Bull having the same power as them. "Frankly, I don't think it should be a concern because that race [Singapore] is a drivers' race, and if they had another 40 horsepower it wouldn't make a difference."
Ferrari has emerged as Red Bull's only option to continue in Formula 1 next year as the Milton Keynes-based organisation is to split with current supplier Renault at the end of this season, while Mercedes has decided against a deal. Ecclestone has confirmed initially brokering an agreement between Ferrari and Red Bull, although Marchionne has expressed the same concerns about doing so as did his counterpart at Daimler, Dieter Zetsche. The fear is with a clearly improving Ferrari power unit in an aerodynamically well-designed Red Bull, the customer would potentially be stronger than the works team.
"For Formula 1, he [Marchionne] would love to do it, to get Red Bull competitive with an engine, but he doesn't want to damage the team he runs," Ecclestone told AUTOSPORT. "If Red Bull get engine then they are obviously going to be competitive, it's an obvious concern, but he's frightened he's going to upset his team. "It's now down to Sergio to make up his mind, and I'm sure it will be sorted out shortly one way or the other."
Red Bull owner Dietrich Mateschitz - who is prepared to pull his two teams out of F1 if they cannot get competitive engines - revealed at the weekend talks with Ferrari have so far been "positive and encouraging". Ecclestone says Marchionne is aware of the pressure on his shoulders as to lose two teams and four cars from the grid would damage Formula 1. He also feels Marchionne's concerns would have been further raised by what unfolded during the Singapore Grand Prix on Sunday in which second-placed Daniel Ricciardo pushed race winner Sebastian Vettel to the chequered flag. "It didn't help too much with the performance of Red Bull in Singapore," said Ecclestone. "Ferrari will say 'Well, what about if they had our engine?' because Red Bull challenged with an engine that is well down on power. "So Ferrari are concerned about Red Bull having the same power as them. "Frankly, I don't think it should be a concern because that race [Singapore] is a drivers' race, and if they had another 40 horsepower it wouldn't make a difference."
