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Post by racechick on Mar 15, 2017 0:17:56 GMT
Yes I got the bit about firing them all at once. I think Clinton also fired his 93 all at once. Obama was involved in loads of scandals, but his misdemeanours seem to be swept under the carpet. That's a thing that makes me suspicious. It mentions some Of his bad scandals in this article. I knew about some of them but not all. And lots of lies we're told, big serious ones, much worse than saying I'm not showing you my tax records, that's not really a lie. It's just saying I'm not showing you. It's child's play compared to Obanas stuff. www.nationalreview.com/article/443911/obamas-many-scandals-abuse-government-power-worse-sex-scandalsTrump is not a career politician and he doesn't play the career politicians games. He's uncooth and says things before thinking He's not politically correct, so he says things that make some suck their teeth. ( that's actually something I like about him) but I don't think he's done anything that comes close to what Obama did. This double standard regarding Trump is why I want to give him a chance. I don't get it. And I like that he's taking on the corrupt elites. There's things I don't like as well . And there's things that I hope he does and if he doesn't, well maybe then I'll make a judgement and it won't be favourable. But I just feel like he's being written If before he's had a chance. I saw a video a by a gay guy who supported Trump had put on twitter. I'll see if can find it. It seemed to make sense to me, but maybe I'm not seeing the whole picture. I, not trying to be awkward, it's just the way my thoughts and feelings are going.
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Post by racechick on Mar 15, 2017 0:28:47 GMT
This is the video I mentioned. It's just an ordinary guy, he's gay, and I can't verify what he says in the video. But these are some of the things, like helping the black communities, encouraging women into business etc that I'd hope Trump keeps his word on.
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Post by Wß on Mar 15, 2017 1:16:57 GMT
What you're missing about Trump is that he's not a career politician but he's a career ruthless capitalist that has gone bankrupt four times, never personally but always leaves others to bear the burden of his company's bad investments. He's always putting his name on bad scams, some of which he's been sued for. Trump University for example. Complete scam and instead of admitting guilt, he settles with the plaintiff for 25 million dollars. So how's that for trusting the guy? Why would you give a guy who's time and time again shafted the government. He' bought land to develop in upstate NY, for 2 million dollars. He was shot down by local ordinances in a town, where he was to use this land to build a luxury development. Since he could no longer build his development, the land was relatively worthless, four million speculatively spent. What does he do? He donated the land to NY State to turn into game lands and a state park, but in his taxes the land was valued as a 100 million dollar donation. Great way to keep from paying taxes by fucking over the tax payers. Why are you giving him a free pass on him not releasing his current tax filings like every other president since Nixon? I'm staring to lose faith in your judgement of late RC. I'm all for looking at all points of views but lately I think you're drinking way too much of the on line conservative kool-aid. You have so much access to great French and Italian wines woman! I also think that you're not playing level here, because my sources are a bit more legitimate, the NY Time, the Washington Post, and you're asking me to trust some guy on the internet with a twitter account? Not a fair comparison in my opinion.
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Post by Wß on Mar 15, 2017 1:30:21 GMT
One last and ver ironic, or perhaps hypocritical thought given the parallels. Donald Trump based his entry into the political arena by asking for Obama's birth certificate, insisting he wasn't an American citizen. Now Trump refuses to release his tax returns.
Oh it is indeed an upside down world.
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Post by racechick on Mar 15, 2017 1:30:54 GMT
That's fair comment. But I'm not asking you to trust the guy, I said myself that I can't verify what he says. I just felt he spoke earnestly and it interested me what he had to say. It was another viewpoint. ( you also posted vandals ) The article I posted about Obamas scandals , I'm not sure where it was from, but there were a few sources quoting his scandals. I don't know about Trumps business deals so I'll take your word on that. Nine weeks in France nearly...so maybe that's blown my mind. I am changing how I see things and view things, I don't really know why. I just see a lot of hypocrisy about and go the other way from it. I don't think it's so much an embracing of the right, I say right because I'm certainly not conservative ( small c) It's more a growing distaste for the Liberal PC brigade. It seems it's not just me though. A lot of people feel like this. Maybe there is something g in the wine!! Lol
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Post by Wß on Mar 15, 2017 1:47:09 GMT
That's the thing, I think the world is all about shades of gray but we're often left by the media discussing the black and white and trying to fit everything into it. Looking at the world as black and white is a sure way to lose the nuance of everything that lies between the extremes.
Very few things are ever just that, black and white. We are very much in a global political environment that has villified everything in the world except for the fact that four men on the planet own 50% of the globes wealth. Think about that. 4 men own more wealth than 3.5 billion human beings.
So what does that mean? There's less of the pie left for everyone else. So the fight for the scraps become more intense and the continued insistance on corporate profits means that there's a trend to squeeze from the little guy and pretty soon, Asians will be demanding too much money asking for a dollar an hour instead of the 17 cents an hour they get today to make our iPhones.
Then we'll be moving manufacturing plants to the African continent because we can further squeeze those people since they'll basically work for one meal a day.
So I do implore you, instead of looking at the liberal agenda or the conservative agenda, look at how does the human race progress and who is trying to oppress the masses in order to make a buck?
That's where the problem, the root of the problem is. As the slice of the pie left for everyone else gets smaller, the divisiveness will continue to grow.
Until there's a tipping point.
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Post by racechick on Mar 15, 2017 8:11:31 GMT
I know about the 1% of obscenely rich elites controlling the show, I mentioned them earlier. And it's sick. And I think the tipping point is coming because more and more people are realising this and rebelling against it.
I also think there's nothing wrong with capitalism, it's the only system that works. The problem is contolling the greed and abuse of that 1%.
But most humans aren't nice. I think that's a mistake Liberals make. Most humans aren't nice. .
I used to see everything in shades of grey. Could generally see both sides off an arguement, or at least see where both sides were coming from. And that's not a good quality, it makes one indecisive.
On a personal note, about 18 months ago I trusted someone who wasn't honest. I was stupid. I think I've just toughened up since then
On money, or I should say currency, the $ is on borrowed time. And by dollar I mean all FIAT currencies, since they're all pegged to the dollar. When that implosion comes it will dwarf any other economic shit that's going on. 2008 was just a warm up. But I guess the 1% will have made contingency plans for themselves.
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Post by Hammer on Mar 17, 2017 4:05:15 GMT
Wß is this for real? I mean...the numbers behind the new plan. He talked so much shit about Obamacare I thought he'd get this one stitched up alright without looking obvious.
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Post by Wß on Mar 17, 2017 13:56:40 GMT
Honest to goodness truth.
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Post by Wß on Mar 17, 2017 15:14:22 GMT
So here's something pretty fucking shocking about where the administration is and the newly proposed budget. One of the programs being cut is providing food to under privileged schoolkids because you know it's hard to concentrate on school when you're hungry. But apparently that program is dispensable under the new budget. 54 Billion added to a defense budget that's already bigger than the budget than the next ten countries spend on their defense budgets COMBINED! So programs like this, and meals on wheels... meals on wheels for christ's sake. A program that they spend 3 million dollars annually on. To deliver meals to sick and elderly bed ridden folks or people that are alone and recovering from an injury or surgery that makes them immobile. Most of the budget for Meals on Wheels is from private donations, and the Government wants to cut the 3 million lousy dollars it gives them. So you have the Pentagon that lost 125 billion dollars in their seat cushions apparently, but we're going to give them 54 billion dollars more a year. But we're going to find that money somewhere, yeah take food away from hungry kids. Most powerful country in the world.
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Post by Wß on Mar 17, 2017 17:41:59 GMT
Best explanation ever as to why we have to cut school lunch programs.
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Post by Wß on Mar 18, 2017 15:51:24 GMT
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Post by Hammer on Mar 18, 2017 17:39:31 GMT
Trump is quite a rudeass.
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Post by Wß on Mar 23, 2017 13:10:50 GMT
This guy is the most powerful man in the world at the moment. Let that sink in. *after a review of votes by many districts called into question on both side, 3 votes (out of 60someodd million) in the entire country were deemed to have been invalid.
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Post by Wß on Mar 27, 2017 13:46:40 GMT
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Post by Hammer on Apr 10, 2017 6:25:17 GMT
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Post by Wß on Apr 25, 2017 12:08:32 GMT
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Post by Wß on Apr 28, 2017 12:24:40 GMT
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Post by Wß on May 22, 2017 21:10:38 GMT
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Post by Wß on Jun 4, 2017 15:59:32 GMT
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