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Post by Wß on Mar 19, 2016 11:24:41 GMT
...and these slow cars can don't sound good and have nothing but restriction, well Lewis Hamilton on his 50th career pole, he managed to break Michael Schumacher's 2004 lap of Albert Park.
1:23.837 previous time of 1:24.125. 3 tenth's shy of Vettel's time of 1:23.529 in 2011 but give it another year. Possibly would have fallen today it not for the Q format.
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Post by Hammer on Mar 19, 2016 11:30:02 GMT
WOW impressive!! 2004 was the year Bridgestone was rocking it and cars were built like spaceships with all those extra aero pieces. And they've broken it with half the consumption.
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Post by Frontrunner on Mar 19, 2016 14:40:25 GMT
The problem is that the current cars will still get spanked in race trim by a early 2000s F1 car. Drivers in the 2000 era were on the limit more in races where now the drivers are more or less cruising around to no fault of there own, its the stupid rules.
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Post by Wß on Mar 19, 2016 14:47:02 GMT
Not debating that part, I agree with you, and it can be the same, with a little more fuel in the tank, these engines are just three years old and they're still developing that was a 10 cylinder monstrosity. From a technological standpoint these engines are doing 5 GPs and are turbo as well as harvesting restricted. They could easily get 200bhp more while maintaining the reliability and increasing fuel consumption by perhaps 10%. They really have revolutionized the ICE in the last couple of years.
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Post by Hammer on Mar 19, 2016 15:21:31 GMT
Not debating that part, I agree with you, and it can be the same, with a little more fuel in the tank, these engines are just three years old and they're still developing that was a 10 cylinder monstrosity. From a technological standpoint these engines are doing 5 GPs and are turbo as well as harvesting restricted. They could easily get 200bhp more while maintaining the reliability and increasing fuel consumption by perhaps 10%. They really have revolutionized the ICE in the last couple of years. Not to mention next year they expect the cars to be 3-5 seconds faster with better tyres and aero. If that's the case, the race pace wouldn't be so bad really but hypothetically let's say they're even faster than the early 2000s but still not really pushing? Does it really matter in the end....if they're slower or faster. We can't gauge this without a stopwatch anyway.
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Post by Frontrunner on Mar 19, 2016 15:55:33 GMT
Terrific point Hammer. Thats the thing, I just want the drivers to push more so in the races than they are now regardless if they're 5 secs slower or faster in lap time, thats one of the biggest issue in F1 today IMO.
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Post by Wß on Mar 19, 2016 16:38:58 GMT
My geek is showing, I really don't mind the times give or take a few seconds, what I do want is for the sport to continue to always push the technology envelope and that's what it's doing with these engines... engines that have gotten zero credit for the technological marvel they are.
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Post by RyRy on Mar 19, 2016 17:13:21 GMT
Obviously Lewis won't beat the 2004 race laptime tomorrow but still, it was a bloody good pole lap and smashed his team mate and the other competitors.
To be fair to Rosberg, he has the 5th fastest ever lap ever (Vettel, Hamilton, Vettel, Schumacher, Rosberg)
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Post by Wß on Jul 24, 2016 14:52:03 GMT
Kimi Raikkonen is now 2nd in the fast lap record books with 42, behind only Schumacher with 77. Fastest lap is IMO the most worthless stat on the recordbooks.
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Post by Hammer on Jul 24, 2016 14:59:56 GMT
Lewis has won at Hungary more times than any other driver in history! Threw away an easy win in 2011, got shafted by his engine 2 seasons ago. He's really made this place his backyard.
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Post by Wß on Jul 24, 2016 15:19:28 GMT
Speaking of records.... since 2007, nearly 52% of all race wins have been won by these two guys. Think about that statistic, it's really staggering. And they blame Mercedes for a "lack of competition". The sport has always been dominated. It's just difficult to watch it being dominated by the guy or team you hate, or love to hate, but that's what makes it fun.
3 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton 2007–2016 178 48 26.97% 4 Germany Sebastian Vettel 2007–2016 169 42 24.85%
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Post by stonemonkey on Jan 10, 2017 9:59:50 GMT
According to something that just popped up on fb 2017 will be the first year since 1976 that there isn't a driver who at some point had been a team mate of Schumacher on the grid.
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Post by Hammer on Jan 10, 2017 11:13:45 GMT
According to something that just popped up on fb 2017 will be the first year since 1976 that there isn't a driver who at some point had been a team mate of Schumacher on the grid. At the risk of sounding like a fanboy I hope Verslappen teams with Hamilton at some point so we'd be saying something similar around 2037.
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Post by stonemonkey on Jan 10, 2017 13:04:42 GMT
Lewis' team mates go back to 2000.
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Post by Hammer on Jan 10, 2017 13:42:54 GMT
Exactly, so when Verslappen retires the headlines should read something like "2038 is the 1st year since 2000 there isn't a driver at some point had been a teammate of Legend Lewis on the grid".
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