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Post by CookinFlat6 on Mar 10, 2015 17:49:43 GMT
This is one topic that amazes me. Everything points to Alonso simply trying harder, going faster into the corner than the previous lap. Then lost it and then tried to avoid smashing up the front or rear by. He probably just aborted the lap and tried to bleed his excess speed on the astroturf and maybe misjudged it. Then suffered concussion at impact accompanied by memory loss of the crash itself.
Then McLaren checked the car found no faults or anything wrong, but the memory loss obviously worried Alonso and so he stays "dazed" trying to work out what exactly happened, leading to the doctors keeping him longer etc - leading to the apparent mismatch of info from the team.
Button and Mags would not have jumped in th same car were there ANY evidence of shock etc - which is ludicrous. Last year when we had cars catching fire, over th whle year not a single case of ERS gone bad, and now Honda - with the biggest Hybrid tech research facilities in the world forgot which was positive/negative?
And now we have the usual procession of people saying it was 'strange' etc - lets look at who these people are to find a clue o their motivations.
Horner - supposedly behind the untrue boycott story - We know he proposed freezing or removing the ERS so I wonder
Briatore - Says a crash is strange?? really the expert on faked crashes who actually said right after that all was good
David Coulthard - RBR PR person and no stranger to strange crashes himself, even crashed on the parade lap once
Bernie - Says McLaren are holding back their telemetry despite already demonstrating no faults on the car - then Bernie says thats McLarens choice - well shag a duck Bernie, why shouldnt McLaren reveal all their secrets to prove what they dont have to
And so we have the same sub drama back for another episode, confirmed by Toto suddenly speaking up for McLaren, this time the usual sheep are confused as Hamiltons not involved and so its left to the the Villeneuves etc to pile in and give their piece.
All we need now is J Stewart telling us how he had warned about electric shocks back in the 60s
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Post by pistnbroke on Mar 10, 2015 18:07:39 GMT
I would imagine it is Honda trying to hold the telemetry back. I am sure the other teams would like to get a look at it to reverse engineer what the engine is doing to see if they are going to be in trouble when it does more than 2 laps at a go.
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Post by Wß on Mar 10, 2015 19:14:27 GMT
It will all be forgotten after this weekend's GP when the topic of conversation will be about the double DNF for McLaren. I want them to do well but it will be the miracle of miracles if both those cars finish.
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Post by pistnbroke on Mar 10, 2015 19:30:58 GMT
I bet they would are dreaming of a finish like last year's race
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Mar 10, 2015 20:16:11 GMT
I am actually worried that 2 dnfs would place them behnd Manor who are likely to at least finish the race. The amount of running they have had compared to Renault last year with 4 teams could suggest that if they finish they will be so slow they might as well turn the weekend into a test - driving fast and expecting breakdowns
Would be great if they pulled something out and showed a super fast lap to set the cat amongst the pigeons
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Post by pistnbroke on Mar 10, 2015 22:17:44 GMT
McHonda front row lock out. However does not complete the formation lap lol
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Post by Hammer on Mar 11, 2015 9:11:51 GMT
McHonda front row lock out. However does not complete the formation lap lol I think they'd still be chuffed with that. |
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Post by LewEngBridewell on Mar 11, 2015 11:56:58 GMT
It will all be forgotten after this weekend's GP when the topic of conversation will be about the double DNF for McLaren. I want them to do well but it will be the miracle of miracles if both those cars finish. Don't forget that's what many people said about RBR last year at this point!  |
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Post by Wß on Mar 11, 2015 12:02:26 GMT
I'd love to see it happen. I mean a finish by either car would be deemed a success. Believe me, I take no joy in the sputtering start but it's not surprising. These cars are not 40 or 50 million dollar pieces of machinery for nothing. But I would not place stakes in McHonda until after the August break.
2016 they'll be the lead team charging at Mercedes, I'm pretty confident of that.
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Post by LRW on Mar 11, 2015 17:06:55 GMT
Was the time period between last test and Melbourne last year ? Was it the same as this year?
Because if Renault / Redbull could make the progress they did in that period - why can't McHonda ?
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Post by pistnbroke on Mar 12, 2015 16:30:23 GMT
Kmag has said that all the testing was done on a low fuel load. Oh dear
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Post by RyRy on Mar 13, 2015 22:28:59 GMT
It's interesting how the other teams were clever in not saying the Fernando incident was suspicious but you could see they thought that, other drivers found it suspicious too including pundits and then on top of that both Ron & Bouler have gone back on what they first said and their stories and opinions have changed a little.
Then on top of that KMag had a similar accident that he was obviously confused by to only 10 mins later suddenly say it was his own fault...
I'm going to take a guess at the Engine lacks a linear throttle, maybe relating to the boost from the turbo and instead is quite jumpy so it's easy to lose control. Renault have a similar problem but no where near as bad but Mercedes'.
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Post by Hammer on Mar 14, 2015 6:25:36 GMT
McHonda front row lock out. However does not complete the formation lap lol Back row lock out. Hope the rest of of your prediction doesn't come true lol |
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Mar 14, 2015 8:31:36 GMT
It's interesting how the other teams were clever in not saying the Fernando incident was suspicious but you could see they thought that, other drivers found it suspicious too including pundits and then on top of that both Ron & Bouler have gone back on what they first said and their stories and opinions have changed a little. Then on top of that KMag had a similar accident that he was obviously confused by to only 10 mins later suddenly say it was his own fault... I'm going to take a guess at the Engine lacks a linear throttle, maybe relating to the boost from the turbo and instead is quite jumpy so it's easy to lose control. Renault have a similar problem but no where near as bad but Mercedes'. Good point in relation to mags off, It could be an unpredictable load peak on the rear axel. If you remember with the early Kers the recharging of th rear axel would peak in the midl of a corner and the driver - normally lewis was off no matter what speed or attitude It would only have to be unpredicatble linearity of cultivating from the suspension to cause 'strange' but regular small offs. This is not an easy ix at all, in fact its a huge problem if true, maybe even harder to fix than a simple shock |
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Post by Wß on Mar 14, 2015 12:59:22 GMT
Alonso's doctor recommends he stay out until after the August break, just to be on the safe side.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Mar 14, 2015 13:19:58 GMT
Does he get his yearly wage in a tranches then? hehe
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Post by Hammer on Mar 14, 2015 13:39:47 GMT
Alonso's doctor recommends he stay out until after the August break, just to be on the safe side. Wow this sucks. I don't like the guy but this is heavy. I want to see him drive in F1, not watch from the sidelines.  |
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Post by Wß on Mar 14, 2015 13:49:08 GMT
Alonso's doctor recommends he stay out until after the August break, just to be on the safe side. Wow this sucks. I don't like the guy but this is heavy. I want to see him drive in F1, not watch from the sidelines. It was a joke. After watching today's qualifying... |
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Post by Hammer on Mar 14, 2015 15:57:57 GMT
Ok...that was NOT funny man. I want to see Alonso get back on the grid ASAP
(and get whipped)
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Post by racechick on Mar 14, 2015 17:19:17 GMT
I can't keep up with you guys and the jokes!! I just told somebody Alonso was out till August!! Mind you, I bet he hopes he will be out until August! He must be crying tears into his nurses bosom as he watches the McLarens performance.
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