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Post by Wß on Mar 19, 2015 13:59:48 GMT
This is a bit of old news by now, rehashed by Pirelli for Australia, but I wanted to add one bit of info not addressed here. It's the first time in the new tire era that the winning race strategy was a one stopper.
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Post by ichabod on Mar 19, 2015 16:33:10 GMT
This is a bit of old news by now, rehashed by Pirelli for Australia, but I wanted to add one bit of info not addressed here. It's the first time in the new tire era that the winning race strategy was a one stopper. On the Sky show I thought Ted Kravitz said the quickest way round was a two stopper, but was very risky in terms of safety car or virtual safety car.
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Post by Hammer on Mar 19, 2015 16:39:15 GMT
Yep, quickest way to finish the race was on a 2 stopper by about 5 seconds....and in the first race of a season with Maldonado and a 17y old on track, you really don't like the odds of that one.
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Post by Wß on Apr 22, 2015 11:45:11 GMT
Spain - Medium / Hard Monaco - Super Soft / Soft Canada - Super Soft / Soft Austria - Super Soft / Soft
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Post by Wß on Apr 25, 2015 13:22:31 GMT
There's always talk of "spicing" up the show. You don't need a lot of whiz bang, just the right idea. This would go a long way.
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Post by CookinFlat6 on Apr 25, 2015 13:56:15 GMT
Thats a very good idea and would definetely add a big variable or potential to mix up the order. I can see the following happening though
1 team gets it wrong and are out th race from the bginning of the weekend - leading to moaning from certain fans that its unfair and they should get to change tyres as they are so obviously wrong and it is stiffling competition that weekend. Say Ferrari get it wrong and are instantly eliminated from the weekend we would hear calls for changing the unfair rules
The back marker teams will have nothing to lose by picking the 2 fastest tyres every single race and hope for the best. Hope for safety cars or rain to remove the need t make more stops. They would just do this all the time and lead races more
The top teams would all converge on the same choice as they would not want to gamble in any way and there will be a quantifiably optimum choice for each race and so nothing would change there after the first few races and things settled down.
This would give an advantage to a team like Merc who have performance and are optimised for one tyre, it would take away the penalty they now have on a tyre they dont want. It would actually take the Allinson tyre management advantage away from Ferrari by the same token
I think these patterns are inevitable, but stand to be corrected
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Post by racechick on Apr 25, 2015 14:07:00 GMT
I've never really understood why Pirelli make the tyre choice and not the teams. I guess I hadn't thought about the manufacturing aspect... ie The choice can't be left until the actual weekend, if would have to be stipulated before because of costs. I like the idea. As Cookie says, there will be moans and calls for change when teams make wrong calls. I still like the idea though.
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Post by Wß on Jun 7, 2015 14:06:21 GMT
Good read with some "insight" as to the minutia in the details of F1.
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Post by pistnbroke on Jun 9, 2015 22:38:39 GMT
Just when you think you have got through and a grasp on all the tiny aspects of F1, they add tyre batch testing to the list.
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Post by Wß on Sept 10, 2015 18:28:25 GMT
I was wondering what they'd do with Sochi as last year was ridonculous.
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Post by Frontrunner on Sept 11, 2015 1:10:56 GMT
Think Nico did nearly the whole race on 1 set of tyres after flat spotting his opening tyre set big time into turn 2.
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Post by Wß on Sept 11, 2015 11:13:33 GMT
Putin and Bernie sitting together... shirtless perhaps?
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Post by Wß on Sept 24, 2015 15:08:53 GMT
I'm very much in support of this, good to have some diversification as teams can tailor their chassis specifically to a preferred tire compound here. Which would lead to diversification in both strategy and design.
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Post by Hammer on Sept 24, 2015 15:22:00 GMT
That's quite a welcome news for Mercedes actually...in order to carry their form into 2016. Ferrari will be trying to play to their cars strengths and going longer and longer with tyre conservation and do less stops to counter Mercs sheer pace with mediums/softs.
I'm definitely betting on more tyre failures next season.
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Post by Frontrunner on Sept 26, 2015 8:06:23 GMT
I like the idea, I like it a lot. It will give me much more intrigue into a GP weekend.
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Post by Wß on Sept 26, 2015 10:52:46 GMT
Imagine a team taking one of the mid range compounds and tweaking their chassis, aero, everything around it? They could then use that tire to maximum efficiency. I'm sure you could match the performance of the softer tire below it by doing that.
I like it, but it would mean that Pirelli can't fuck around with the compounds as they are today. It would change all previous history and that would just be a fiasco.
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Post by Frontrunner on Sept 30, 2015 13:45:45 GMT
Pirelli considering pulling the pin if Red Bull quit. Welcome aboard Michelin 2016 perhaps??
ESPNF1
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Post by Wß on Sept 30, 2015 13:58:31 GMT
Bernie is pulling out all of the stops!
I don't want to see Red Bull go. That is something I want to make clear. If they do go, it was of their own volition and of their own doing.
If you do the math however... with Haas having two new cars, and Mercedes and Ferrari fielding three cars, the total number of cars on the grid won't change.
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Post by Hammer on Sept 30, 2015 14:00:15 GMT
They'll have to rethink the points system as well. Top 6 taken up every race by Merc and Ferrari, the other teams will give F1 the finger and leave as well.
RB has a lot of pull and they know it. Now that even the tyre supplier is talking tough, even when they know Michelin is waiting in the wings.
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Post by Wß on Oct 13, 2015 18:52:46 GMT
Pirelli has confirmed the tyre nominations for the final four races of 2015, which includes the first race at the revised Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez in Mexico. F1’s official tyre supplier will bring the soft and medium tyres for the first Mexican Grand Prix in 23 years. The same tyres will be used at the Circuit of the Americas and Interlagos, matching last year’s tyre selection. There will be no change in the tyre selection for the final race of 2015 either: the softest tyre options will be used at Yas Marina. On Sunday Pirelli announced it had agreed terms with Bernie Ecclestone to continue as F1’s official tyre supplier until 2019. Source
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