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Post by Hammer on Sept 16, 2017 3:26:36 GMT
Why would McLaren purposely run higher downforce when they're already lacking straightline speed? Surely that'd be against Hondas best advise, and it makes Honda look bad.
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Post by dogued on Sept 16, 2017 9:48:34 GMT
Why would McLaren purposely run higher downforce when they're already lacking straightline speed? Surely that'd be against Hondas best advise, and it makes Honda look bad. Possibly because the engine is down on power and while less downforce would make it faster on straights, it wouldn't be any better through corners. Adding downforce makes an already slow engine even slower, but gives a bigger advantage through corners and presumably a better overall lap time.
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Post by Wß on Sept 16, 2017 10:44:03 GMT
Why would McLaren purposely run higher downforce when they're already lacking straightline speed? Surely that'd be against Hondas best advise, and it makes Honda look bad. Possibly because the engine is down on power and while less downforce would make it faster on straights, it wouldn't be any better through corners. Adding downforce makes an already slow engine even slower, but gives a bigger advantage through corners and presumably a better overall lap time. Depending on the track. Singapore is one of those tracks.
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Post by dogued on Sept 16, 2017 11:02:45 GMT
yeah, but they run more downforce everywhere. Either way, we'll see how they rank vs RBR next year. Funny that the first FP session after the announced split has McLaren Honda running P4 & P5 Maybe Honda wanted rid of McLaren just as much so have been holding back a software package till after the divorce! lol
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Post by Frontrunner on Sept 16, 2017 11:21:55 GMT
yeah, but they run more downforce everywhere. Either way, we'll see how they rank vs RBR next year. Funny that the first FP session after the announced split has McLaren Honda running P4 & P5 Maybe Honda wanted rid of McLaren just as much so have been holding back a software package till after the divorce! lol How about if they win the race tomorrow... oh boy
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Post by Frontrunner on Sept 16, 2017 11:54:52 GMT
Mclaren have always claimed they had a good chassis... Not only them, Red Bull, Mercedes, Ferrari and everyone can see they have a great chassis. It's noticeable on pretty much every track. I agree, they have a good car, no doubt. I'm just saying there is no excuses next season, they will have a better PU in the back of the car next year so they have to get the business done and get some good results next year. Atleast be in touching distance of Red Bull or even on par with them.
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Post by London on Nov 14, 2017 18:16:15 GMT
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Post by Hammer on Nov 15, 2017 1:49:41 GMT
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Post by Wß on Feb 2, 2018 3:18:21 GMT
You guys heard about this? I already get Prime so I'll be checking it out. Seems like an interesting experiment on monetizing access to what's normally a very secretive sport behind the scenes.
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McLaren
Feb 9, 2018 22:07:52 GMT
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Post by London on Feb 9, 2018 22:07:52 GMT
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McLaren
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Post by London on Feb 10, 2018 21:58:58 GMT
Finished to watch the documentary and they kept everything secret as expected. Everything they said in it, has been said during the last season to the press basically. There is no technical insight on Honda engine and what went wrong. They kept everything secret as usual which is understandable. It looked more like an overview of the pre-season with Vandoorne involved to share different facets of his personality for us the fans and what he faced and went through during the winter season and how he is dedicated himself to succeed with the support of his father since his childhood. Good for him and his image. On Alonso, I would say that his behavior and the way he interacted with other employees are pretty odd sometimes. I almost got the feeling that he has a double job at McLaren: Driver and Team Bosses
On the organisation side, there was a few things a bit embarrassing that you can clearly feel and see. After 2 years of underperforming, they was not even prepared to fail, there was no plan B. The team was not well organised as we can see during a couple of scenes. I wonder if under Ron Dennis it would have happened. I feel like they miss someone like him.
Oh and I forgot the most important thing, everytime Boullier was talking about Alonso I was like
Guy was talking some nonsense shit lol.
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Post by London on Mar 17, 2018 20:58:52 GMT
McLaren unusual new sponsor. This team is finished
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Post by Frontrunner on Mar 19, 2018 13:09:25 GMT
Not sure what Fonzo is doing with tucking his shirt into his boardshorts, doesn't look right. Also Stoffel is wearing socks with his thongs is totally wrong. What's the hell is going at Mclaren?
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Post by racechick on Mar 28, 2018 19:29:34 GMT
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Post by Wß on Mar 29, 2018 17:02:10 GMT
There was a time when you couldn't give away old race cars.
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Post by racechick on Mar 29, 2018 18:43:38 GMT
But Senna’s?? ( heart picture)
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Post by London on May 19, 2018 17:56:10 GMT
Lewis would like to have the MP4/23 If I am not mistaking but Ron Dennis doesnt give his cars for some reasons.
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Post by London on May 19, 2018 17:59:01 GMT
Bernie bought the car by the way ^^
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Post by dogued on Jun 27, 2018 5:52:23 GMT
Can we talk about a serious health issue for a moment. McLarenitis affects 1 in 10 F1 race teams, and can often lead to loss of vision, poor decisions and confusion.
The latest victim is Eric Boullier. A couple of highlights of his symptoms in a recent article:
"I think Red Bull is showing that you can win races as a customer, but I think winning a championship is another level -- you need to have a works team status"
Firstly, it would appear that Mr Boullier has caught this infection from Ron Dennis, who said "only a works team can win the championship." He has apparently forgotten this, having recently ended the team's "works" status to become a customer.
Secondly, Mr Boullier is obviously suffering from loss of vision, as only a blind mand would fail to notice the CUSTOMER team of RedBull Racing easily beating the WORKS Renault team race after race after race for the past 3 seasons. The lack of title to RedBull has nothing to do with their status as a customer, they have simply had the 3rd best engine on the grid.
"It's true that this time last year we had no points at all, so obviously we are now in the fight for fourth with Renault and once again, we would prefer to be comfortably fourth, which was one of the targets we had assigned to ourselves"
Here we see the delusions in full flight. If we take out the top 3 teams, then aside from a 5th place in Australia, the top placed McLaren has been beaten by all teams except Williams at one point or another. Round 2: Renault, Haas, Torro Rosso all finished in front. Round 3: Renault finished in front. Round 4: Renault, Force India, Sauber all finished in front. Williams actually split the McLarens. Round 5: Renault, Haas in front. Round 6: 2 Renault, 2 Force India, Haas, Torro Rosso, Sauber all in front. Round 7: Everyone except Williams in front. Round 8: 2 Renault, 2 Haas, Sauber in front.
From that, it's pretty safe to say that Renault are fighting Haas for 4th, with McLaren in battle for 6th.
Our hope is for a speedy recovery and perhaps the hiring of someone with a built in immunity to McLarenitis
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Post by Hammer on Jun 27, 2018 8:08:35 GMT
Man I stopped taking Boullier seriously last season. The way he speaks, it's a puppet who is simply going according to the wind right now, he was brought into Dennis' team, then the buyout and I bet the investors are meddling too much with the management.
McLaren moving from Honda to Renault in the first place showed that they have absolutely no leadership. I bet it was their knee jerk reaction to Fonzi's demands. If you make a driver the deciding factor for decisions such as engine deals and such - you are lost.
McLaren should've fired Alonso on the first season of the terrible Honda year, hired a much cheaper veteran and focused on opening contracts with other teams for Honda to speed up. Instead you have a lost outfit being taken advantage of, and all they have done the past 3 years is give themselves a lousy reputation and provide Redbull the chance to reap the benefits of McLarens 3 years of investment.
They are sunk. They have no chance of any serious results until 2021 and they need to act fast to get their shit in order THIS YEAR. From Boullier's words, they are just headless chickens. Sad state of affairs for a once great outfit.
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