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Post by Hammer on Feb 6, 2016 8:12:51 GMT
I.hate.runoffs.
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Post by RyRy on Feb 6, 2016 18:58:08 GMT
Run offs and gravel traps are bad, I vote for some shitty material to slow them up but not to ruin their race but also to keep it safe
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Post by Wß on Feb 7, 2016 2:23:59 GMT
Run offs and gravel traps are bad, I vote for some shitty material to slow them up but not to ruin their race but also to keep it safe A ball pit?
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Post by Hammer on Feb 7, 2016 4:18:19 GMT
Gravel traps were fine....or at worst, thick grass or something. Something which really punishes a drivers' race if he brakes too late or loses the back end going into a corner. All these runoffs just make tracks look very amateur level. Anyone remember San Marino? That was a circuit which punished....but I bet if it ever makes a comeback it's probably got tar all over the place by then.
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Post by stonemonkey on Feb 7, 2016 10:22:24 GMT
Grass strips with tarmac beyond it is what I prefer, maybe with a chicane to negotiate to rejoin the track. I don't want to see anyone out completely because they got beached in the gravel.
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Post by LRW on Feb 7, 2016 10:47:39 GMT
Part of me really does like gravel traps. Punish people for their mistakes. It would certainly mess with the podium results if they did. Because even the top guns mess up - so it would be fun to see Hamilton or Vettle beached, and someone else taking a trophy home.
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Post by stonemonkey on Feb 7, 2016 10:56:45 GMT
It's not always the drivers own fault they've gone off track or in some cases could be to avoid becoming part of an incident that's occurring in front of them.
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Post by LRW on Feb 7, 2016 16:50:19 GMT
It's not always the drivers own fault they've gone off track or in some cases could be to avoid becoming part of an incident that's occurring in front of them. Thems the breaks...
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Post by Wß on Feb 7, 2016 19:48:02 GMT
I personally don't like it but its for safety reasons so its hard to argue a case against it. Perhaps have the Halo but put gravel traps back in at all the corners instead of these monster run off areas, can't stand these run off areas these days and drivers getting away with numerous mistakes and go unpunished. Still think Carlos Sainz would have been better off with a gravel trap to slow him down a bit in his shunt at Sochi, anyway I'm rambling so I just shut up now. Hadn't see the other options, wonder which one has been agreed to. If protection is the goal then both of these seem better than simply the halo alone. The full windscreen one actually looks nice. Bigger images here.
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Post by Wß on Feb 10, 2016 0:11:49 GMT
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Post by Hammer on Feb 10, 2016 2:13:32 GMT
I'd be annoyed if any of those solutions were implemented. Call me an 'arschole' but I thought there's a reason these guys are deemed 'superstars' and being paid all those millions and why they have high premiums with their insurance companies. They're obviously risking their lives with the job to an extent, but if they're aiming for their own little glass door 'office space' within a sports car, please move over and let people like me and thousands of other drivers in lower categories have a shot at it because I guarantee that we wouldn't be complaining.
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Post by Frontrunner on Feb 14, 2016 11:17:06 GMT
I personally don't like it but its for safety reasons so its hard to argue a case against it. Perhaps have the Halo but put gravel traps back in at all the corners instead of these monster run off areas, can't stand these run off areas these days and drivers getting away with numerous mistakes and go unpunished. Still think Carlos Sainz would have been better off with a gravel trap to slow him down a bit in his shunt at Sochi, anyway I'm rambling so I just shut up now. Hadn't see the other options, wonder which one has been agreed to. If protection is the goal then both of these seem better than simply the halo alone. The full windscreen one actually looks nice. Bigger images here.
I agree, if the Halo is to happen (even though I rather dislike it) then might as well have the the full windscreen then (Its ugly either way anyway) Its pointless having just the Halo, The Halo alone would not of prevented the Massa incident back in Budapest 2009 unless that spring or whatever hits right on the Halo so might as well have the full screen and give the driver full protection. The thing that annoys me most is these current tracks with sealed runoffs for extra safety and whatnot as I said in previous posts. But with the cars more safer than ever with crash testing that needs to be passed and then add the Halo and full windscreen then perhaps have gravel traps again like the good old days, that would be a good compromise for me. I know stonemonkey said in one of his posts that he doesn't like to see cars beached in the gravel and that its sometimes not the drivers fault that he gets beached in the gravel which yes does suck especially when its your favourite driver but thats F1, well... it was a few years ago since these run offs came in. It will happen one day where a driver could possibly make numerous mistakes in a GP either that be out braking himself, running wide or cutting chicanes and go on to win a race which I think is wrong. Mistakes need to be punished and gravel traps know how to punish drivers, better than the current F1 stewards anyway. That is just my opinion.
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Post by Wß on Apr 3, 2016 11:18:14 GMT
The issues with the sport aren't going to be fixed until Todt, Ecclestone and Whitting are all put out to pasture.
"FIA president Jean Todt said the new regulations are about making Formula One a better spectacle overal" just like they tried to do with the new qualifying regulations... what could possible go wrong?
So we've got cars that in the last two races have gone at or near all time F1 records, but the cars need to be faster. The only thing necessary is to listen to what the drivers are saying about the tires, specifically the front tires and do that. Nothing else, leave the regulations alone for 8 years and watch the manufacturers pour in.
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Post by RyRy on Apr 6, 2016 11:58:38 GMT
I want to hear pit wall to pit wall radio communications, I also want driver-to-driver radio (only between teammates)
Maybe a good change would be for an entire team to be open radio to eachother, so if Hamilton speaks to the Engineeer, Rosberg hears it.
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Post by LRW on Apr 6, 2016 16:42:47 GMT
Driver to driver would be awesome.
"Get out of my way. I'm faster than you." "Fuck off. If you want to get past, pass me. Oh you can't. Because you are shit".
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Post by Hammer on Apr 6, 2016 17:05:13 GMT
How about fan to driver. Like "Phone a friend" moment, there's a window when a lucky fan will get to chat with the driver for 1 full minute during the race. I'll be gunning for Button or Alonso at every race.
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Post by Wß on Apr 6, 2016 17:13:31 GMT
How about all radio communication has to be in pig latin.
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Post by LRW on Apr 6, 2016 18:17:11 GMT
Drivers should be given mental arithmetic to solve if they want to discuss any of the banned topics ?
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Post by dogued on Apr 7, 2016 1:27:00 GMT
How about they install an actual radio... onboard footage would have drivers listening to music as they lap. I can see Hamilton, one arm out the side of the car as he slowly drives down pit lane with Kanye blasting out the cockpit.
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Post by Frontrunner on Apr 18, 2016 14:44:02 GMT
Pirelli are now putting in quit threats, MotorsportPirelli says that if plans for a 2017 test programme are not ratified by the end of Monday, then it will be forced to quit Formula 1 because there will not be enough time to prepare new tyres.
F1 Commission members have until later this afternoon to back proposed changes to the testing rules to allow Pirelli to conduct 25 car days of development for 2017's new wider rubber.
The move has come after a frantic few weeks of dialogue between Pirelli, the FIA and teams over sorting out the testing plans, amid Pirelli concerns that it was close to the point where there was not enough time for it to get next year's wider tyres ready.
Motorsport.com has learned that Pirelli wrote to the FIA earlier this month to make it clear that if the 2017 test programme was not sorted immediately, then it would have no choice but to withdraw its tender application for the 2017-2019 F1 contract.
That move, and the acknowledgement of how serious the situation had become, prompted F1 race director Charlie Whiting to recently visit senior representatives from the company in Milan for a meeting to push the testing agreement forward.
Following a subsequent meeting with teams in China last weekend, agreement was reached for a plan for five teams to join in a programme that would run from July over a period of 25 car days.
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