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Post by Hammer on Mar 26, 2017 7:37:32 GMT
Exactly. I don't understand why Mercedes aren't getting a lot more flak than they are right now.
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Post by racechick on Mar 26, 2017 7:41:01 GMT
We've said for a while that Mercedes can dick around with stupid strategies while they have a big speed advantage...but now they don't. They need a decent strategist fast. Not the fool they've had the last few years.
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Post by RyRy on Mar 26, 2017 11:05:48 GMT
Driver of the Day is a complete joke, Vettel won it, he started P2 and won because of Hamilton getting stuck in traffic, it's not even like Vettel dominated or did anything spectacular...
It should have been Bottas or Verstappen as Bottas did a really good job for his first GP with a new team and Verstappen managed to hang onto the back of the Ferrari which is decent.
Hamilton has only won driver of the day once and that was at Spa when he went from 21st and last to get a podium lol. Hamilton's deserved Driver of the Day multiple times including Abu Dhabi 2016 (cruised and dominated the race), Brazil 2016 (cruised and dominated the race) and Russian GP (10th to 2nd)
Based on this DOTD Hamilton should have got it for the Monaco GP where he went from (3rd to 1st in tricky conditions) lol
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Post by Wß on Mar 26, 2017 13:49:18 GMT
Ocon getting a point is the driver of the day.
Okay race recap, I'm happy there's real competition this year. The tifosi are able to come out in droves and we'll be spared the F1 sucks, F1 is boring, F1 isn't what it used to be mantra for the entire year. The win was worth it if you ask me.
On the flip side, I'm loving that we'll get a good head to head between Vettel and Mercedes. Round 1 going to Mercedes couldn't have been scripted better by Liberty media if you asked me. It will be good for the sport.
China is a racetrack and it has straights. Let's see what happens there in two weeks!
At least the racing in the midfield was supremely tight, that counts for something. No offense to our Aussie friends but if it wasn't the first race on the calendar... there was less overtaking here than in Monaco.
Also question to our Aussie friends, why didn't I see anyone on the beaches in the overhead helicopter shots?
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Post by Frontrunner on Mar 26, 2017 14:21:07 GMT
The beaches in Melbourne/Victoria ain't anything special. j/k, I wouldn't have a clue. Perhaps they all went to the GP, attendance went up this year and the Friday attendance is the highest since 2005 when Webber switched to BMW Williams.
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Post by LewEngBridewell on Mar 26, 2017 16:52:17 GMT
Plus and minus points to be taken from this first Grand Prix of the season.
Firstly, the new cars look great, and the reception has been widely positive from all quarters. Secondly, it appears we have more than one team which can win. It may well not be the repeat of the dreaded Mercedes whitewash, and for once, Ferrari made decent strategic calls, something which lost them at least 2 races last year.
On social media, and also from within the drivers, there are cries that the overtaking is way too limited. On one hand, Albert Park is a notoriously difficult circuit on which to pull a pass, and is never really the scene of the most passes of the year. However, with sexier cars, there are drawbacks, and it appears we are now back in the early to mid 2000s era again, with nice cars, but less overtaking.
This needs to be the focus of Brawn et al, now they have taken off where Bernie left. We'll see how it pans out over the year, but it would be a shame if a closer battle at the front was marred by a complete lack of overtaking during the races.
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Post by LewEngBridewell on Mar 26, 2017 16:55:51 GMT
That's weird, booing Lewis and cheering Vettel. Vettel stuffed Mark when they were team mates. I didn't hear the booing, must have been getting coffee. It was pretty aggressive |
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Post by racechick on Mar 26, 2017 16:59:59 GMT
That's weird, booing Lewis and cheering Vettel. Vettel stuffed Mark when they were team mates. I didn't hear the booing, must have been getting coffee. It was pretty aggressive How strange. I can't think what he's done to cause that reaction........unless like dogued says , it's because he suggested Melbourne and Adelaide alternate Hosting ghe GP. |
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Post by Hammer on Mar 26, 2017 17:06:36 GMT
Or maybe all that aggressiveness was from the passionate Tifs venting their frustration and sadness of the past 3 seasons.
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Post by Wß on Mar 26, 2017 18:59:26 GMT
If I was a promoter trying to get the race back in Adelaide, I'd push the hell out of the flagrant breech of safety allowing masses of fans to storm the track while the cars were still lapping. Very unsafe, and I'd be surprised if we don't hear back from the FiA with some type of official sanction.
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Post by Frontrunner on Mar 26, 2017 23:12:07 GMT
I can't see how the booing has anything to do with Adelaide or Sydney getting the GP comments, Melbourne has the GP till 2023 so its not going anywhere anytime soon. I agree with Hammer, all the Tifs and others booing because of the past 3 seasons. Didn't seem long ago when the Aussie fans erupted with cheer when Vettel got eliminated in Q2 in 2014, now there cheering when he wins.
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Post by Frontrunner on Mar 26, 2017 23:31:20 GMT
I noticed that Vettel was doing the peace sign on the poduim, now I don't know if he does this all the time, perhaps that is directed to the Aussies fans??  |
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Post by dogued on Mar 27, 2017 5:22:39 GMT
Also question to our Aussie friends, why didn't I see anyone on the beaches in the overhead helicopter shots? The beaches in the overhead shots are inner city beaches, not usually busy except with tourists. Locals head to suburban beaches where there is less noise/pollution/watercraft. Also, Sunday was very overcast and muggy as hell. We only go to the beach on sunny days over 30! Plus, first weekend of the AFL season. |
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Post by dogued on Mar 27, 2017 5:29:35 GMT
How strange. I can't think what he's done to cause that reaction........unless like dogued says , it's because he suggested Melbourne and Adelaide alternate Hosting ghe GP. It was Sydney he suggested. We don't mind Adelaide! But Sydney and Melbourne hate each other, and Melbourne is VERY possessive of it's tittle of "Sporting Capital". The only time I have ever heard a lot of people talking about Ice Hockey here was when someone suggested in the paper that the nation training squad should move to a rink in Sydney. Suddenly, everyone in Melbourne was a hockey fan! In the AFL, there are 8 teams in Melbourne, 2 in Sydney, and 2 in each of Perth/Adelaide/Brisbane, but there is only ever mass grumbling if a player moves to a Sydney club. |
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Post by racechick on Mar 27, 2017 13:07:36 GMT
Toto has said that s is not strategy that lost Merc the race in Melbourne, it was pace..... "Ferrari was the quicker car, the way Sebastian held onto Lewis' gearbox, we were pushing flat out and we were just not able to pull away," he explained. This is somewhat borne out by the way Lewis and Vettel dropped Bottas in the early stages. Toto also said the ultras weren't performing well, something they need to work on, they wanted to prevent Vettel getting the undercut, and they expected Max to stop sooner. There's a suggestion in the article that Lewis overheated the tyres trying to keep Vettel at bay. But if he did, they were still pulling away from Bottas. Then Toto said... "I believe that these tyres have a very narrow window and you have to keep them in that window in order to perform well," Wolff said when asked why Hamilton was struggling for performance on the ultra-softs. "If you are below the window, you lose performance. So that is different to the last years and needs a new calibration for all of us in understanding the tyres." But if he was flat out how come his tyres were below that window? Seems a bit confusing to me. www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/19007067/toto-wolff-pace-not-strategy-lost-australian-gp |
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Post by Wß on Mar 27, 2017 13:07:40 GMT
So much jubilation all over the internet sites. It's great to see Ferrari fans happy again, but please I implore you, don't become douche bags if Ferrari lose the next three races. They're very power dependent circuits all and it's been nice knowing that there's actual competition early in the season.
Vettel can be driver of the race EVERY race if you want, I'm good with that. Just can we cool it a bit with the sour negativity?
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Post by racechick on Mar 27, 2017 13:09:50 GMT
Just can we cool it a bit with the sour negativity? That's asking a bit much WB! |
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Post by Hammer on Mar 27, 2017 15:09:24 GMT
Toto has said that s is not strategy that lost Merc the race in Melbourne, it was pace..... "Ferrari was the quicker car, the way Sebastian held onto Lewis' gearbox, we were pushing flat out and we were just not able to pull away," he explained. This is somewhat borne out by the way Lewis and Vettel dropped Bottas in the early stages. Toto also said the ultras weren't performing well, something they need to work on, they wanted to prevent Vettel getting the undercut, and they expected Max to stop sooner. There's a suggestion in the article that Lewis overheated the tyres trying to keep Vettel at bay. But if he did, they were still pulling away from Bottas. Then Toto said... "I believe that these tyres have a very narrow window and you have to keep them in that window in order to perform well," Wolff said when asked why Hamilton was struggling for performance on the ultra-softs. "If you are below the window, you lose performance. So that is different to the last years and needs a new calibration for all of us in understanding the tyres." But if he was flat out how come his tyres were below that window? Seems a bit confusing to me. www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/19007067/toto-wolff-pace-not-strategy-lost-australian-gpIt's most likely a setup issue. Apparently, Hamilton still had good tread left on his tyres to go deeper into the race, Vettel who came in few laps later had run out of tread. So the Merc isn't a tyre eater, it's just not operating at the best window while Vettels was. This is almost a repeat of last year, only it was Rosberg VS Vettel. The Merc wasn't working its tyres well but last year they had a 1 second pace advantage over Ferrari. And Ferrari made it easier by stuffing up somewhere in the pit strategy which gave the race to Rosberg. Knowing Merc, they'd find the problem and solve it quickly. It would still be close in China though, but I expect Lewis to keep Vettel at bay. Don't know about Bottas. |
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Post by racechick on Apr 4, 2017 11:19:51 GMT
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Post by RyRy on Apr 5, 2017 15:12:23 GMT
I genuinely think that at the Chinese GP we will see Mercedes walk win with relative ease, they were comfortably faster in qualli and Mercedes only lost because they panicked and then got stuck behind Verstappen
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