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Post by Wß on Oct 3, 2016 10:39:44 GMT
Mercedes doesn't design the subsystems component for other teams. I'd have to ask them why those failures occurred. Speaking only for items that in the words of Mercedes, were highly uncommon. But not uncommon to Lewis. Twice even back to back.
Astronomically high freak occurrences...don't forget there's another option.
We know underhanded play in the sport is inconceivable, so that's that.
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Post by 1lemon on Oct 3, 2016 12:12:03 GMT
Mercedes doesn't design the subsystems component for other teams. I'd have to ask them why those failures occurred. Speaking only for items that in the words of Mercedes, were highly uncommon. But not uncommon to Lewis. Twice even back to back. Astronomically high freak occurrences...don't forget there's another option. We know underhanded play in the sport is inconceivable, so that's that. I'm not saying that underhanded play isn't going to happen, it's F1 god knows it does, but for a mutli-million dollar corporation to break one of it's cars, for a brand built on quality and reliability, at the main sponsors home race to give their main WCC rivals a 1-2 finish on purpose is just absurd. All because they want a half-german to win, or they want their $40M paid athlete to look sad for a photo op, like what is the possible reason. |
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Post by Wß on Oct 3, 2016 12:44:23 GMT
That does sound bizarre doesn't it? No more bizarre really than an astronomical one in a trillion chance happenstance but they also happnen every now and then. It doesn't have to be the entire Mercedes organization does it? You piss off the right guy enough and well, a screw, won't get tightened all the way is all. Clearly we're talking about fringe stuff here and it may very well be just that. But the idea that it can't possibly be the case is just as fringe a proposition IMO.
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Post by 1lemon on Oct 3, 2016 13:15:18 GMT
Well as we all know Nico and Lewis swapped engineers this year, and last year Nico had more technical issues, could it just be that group of mechanics are just making more mistakes? It's all sceptical and I think it's just the lay of the land with sport.
The thing I find great is the people on facebook calling Lewis to move team from the 'evil cheating' Merc who clearly don't want him to win. Except those two world championships. Can't wait to see him at Renault next year!
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Post by Wß on Oct 3, 2016 13:37:00 GMT
When reasonable people start basing their opinions on what unreasonable people say on Facebook, then we're doomed as a species. If all that binds a group is mutual hatred towards a common entity, eventually that group will wither and die on the vine.
The amount of effort to refute bullshit is exponentially harder than it takes to produce it.
I'd love Mercedes to get to the bottom of their reliability issues, I have no clue what they may be but they're certainly only impacting one guy when it comes to pure PU component failure. It may very well be an act of god like Lewis puts it or simply just a matter of shit happens, or there may be something else. It's Mercedes' issue to at Toto said, leave no stone unturned.
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Post by Hammer on Oct 3, 2016 15:03:18 GMT
Well as we all know Nico and Lewis swapped engineers this year, and last year Nico had more technical issues, could it just be that group of mechanics are just making more mistakes? It's all sceptical and I think it's just the lay of the land with sport. The thing I find great is the people on facebook calling Lewis to move team from the 'evil cheating' Merc who clearly don't want him to win. Except those two world championships. Can't wait to see him at Renault next year! Care to list out these "technical issues" VS Lewis' issues? Also it was these same mechanics for Rosberg in 2014, and Lewis clearly had more issues again. So it's not a a case of certain batch of 'defective' engineers. |
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Post by Wß on Oct 3, 2016 15:24:05 GMT
Why even have the discussion? It's all meaningless until the championship is decided. If Hamilton wins it's water under the bridge. If Rosberg wins then there's fodder for both sides for years to come. God help us.
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Post by the2ndcoming on Oct 3, 2016 21:23:53 GMT
However you (MercedesAMG, Lewis, the media, you twisted lot...) pitch this, it's an impossible situation for the team heads. Where do you look? How do you look? What do you do for the remaining races to ensure you're not either overdoing it and ultimately giving the impression you're favouring Lewis or not seeming to be able to find the real source of all these failures and having yet another...truly handing the title to Nico? They are f*ck'd...proper f*ck'd.
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Post by 1lemon on Oct 4, 2016 6:40:11 GMT
However you (MercedesAMG, Lewis, the media, you twisted lot...) pitch this, it's an impossible situation for the team heads. Where do you look? How do you look? What do you do for the remaining races to ensure you're not either overdoing it and ultimately giving the impression you're favouring Lewis or not seeming to be able to find the real source of all these failures and having yet another...truly handing the title to Nico? They are f*ck'd...proper f*ck'd. Or they could investigate and fix the problem (be it a faulty part or personnel changes) and then just not publicly sat what they did, like teams have been doing for years. I don't think it's that much of a problem for Mercedes. |
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Post by racechick on Oct 4, 2016 7:24:56 GMT
You don't??? They have repeat failures on their triple world championship's car and they don't know why? Could be just incredible bad luck, could be incompetence, could be sabotage; and you don't think it's much of a problem?  |
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Post by LRW on Oct 6, 2016 6:58:06 GMT
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Post by racechick on Oct 6, 2016 7:52:03 GMT
So the big end blew because it wasn't getting oiled? And it wasn't getting oiled because the oil came out in turn 15. And the oil came out in turn 15 because they had the pressure too high. Is that right? So now Mercedes are telling everyone to run the pressure lower.
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Post by Hammer on Oct 6, 2016 8:47:47 GMT
And here I was thinking Mercedes with all that intelligence would prefer to use one of their customer cars as a guinea pig for all others instead of one of their own cars.
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Post by racechick on Oct 6, 2016 12:20:47 GMT
and the one with the triple world champion in!
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Post by racechick on Oct 8, 2016 6:22:50 GMT
Well, well, well. Jenson not through to Q2. Suorisingly, he couldn't find a good balance.
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Post by RyRy on Oct 8, 2016 7:11:28 GMT
Pretty good Qualli, darn close at one stage between red bull and ferrari. Very close between the Merc's I expected Rosberg to get pole but I expected the gap to be bigger.
I still think in the race though, Hamilton will get him.
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Post by Hammer on Oct 8, 2016 7:13:01 GMT
If you both want, I can tell you the result of this race. Lewis doesn't finish and we get a Redbull 1-2.
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Post by RyRy on Oct 8, 2016 7:38:15 GMT
If you both want, I can tell you the result of this race. Lewis doesn't finish and we get a Redbull 1-2. RC! YOUR FAULT! I didn't read the title, I just saw you spoke about Suzuka qualli so I did too! Dammit! |
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Post by racechick on Oct 8, 2016 7:42:02 GMT
Oh yes!!! Wrong race! Sorry about that!
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