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Post by London on Jul 24, 2017 14:57:19 GMT
London I thought THIS video (well, audio) would be better Classic team radio that I completely forgot. I would have posted it if I had remembered it but funny thing, I can barely remember those last years without checking some archives and I have no idea why. This situation showed that Rosberg didnt have THAT mentality :
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Post by Wß on Jul 24, 2017 15:00:11 GMT
I'd forgotten about that exchange as well, funny it's not that long ago, man there was a lot of history between the two over those years.
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Post by London on Jul 24, 2017 15:22:46 GMT
For real, It is as if nothing had happened. There is some reviews about 2014 and 2015 seasons on youtube recorded by the BBC which recapitulate very well what happened between them throughout the season with them as a guest commenting on their performance. I can see it several times and still forget what happened 2 month later ^^
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Post by London on Jul 24, 2017 17:47:35 GMT
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Post by Wß on Jul 24, 2017 20:08:39 GMT
Wow, that's a big different, last year they were mandating 19.5 and up to 21 psi in some circuits.
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Post by racechick on Jul 24, 2017 23:34:26 GMT
Does that mean they'll go faster or slower. C'mon, let's get real here!!
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Post by Wß on Jul 25, 2017 1:27:05 GMT
Does that mean they'll go faster or slower. C'mon, let's get real here!! Faster, always faster. It's looking like a dry not TOO hot weekend from what I'm seeing.
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Post by Hammer on Jul 25, 2017 1:49:52 GMT
Maybe compensating for the tougher tyres this year...and to try and push an extra pitstop for all cars. Good news though, little more drama and faster lap times.
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Post by racechick on Jul 25, 2017 8:44:18 GMT
I'm thinking about my quali time. I have one chosen and I hate changing when I've chosen. I've not sunpbmitted yet. Now I'm wondering if I should have chosen quicker.
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Post by dogued on Jul 25, 2017 9:54:13 GMT
racechick - Some food for thought. 2016 Hungarian GP Times Session | Time | Driver | Tyre | FP1 | 01:21.347 | Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes) | SuperSoft | FP2 | 01:20.435 | Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) | SuperSoft | FP3 | 01:20.261 | Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) | SuperSoft | Q1 | 01:33.302 | Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) | Intermediate | Q2 | 01:22.660 | Max Verstappen (Red Bull) | SuperSoft | Q3 | 01:19.965 | Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) | SuperSoft |
*Huge downpour prior to Q1, a number of red flags during session. Q3 had a yellow flag on the final run for Hamilton (Alonso spun), but not for Nico who improved 0.4s. Fastest EVER Lap in an F1 car here was 1:18.436 (Rubens Barrichello, Ferrari, 2004). Other 2004 records so far this year have been beaten by around 0.75s. Oh, and tyre pressures for the 2106 Hungarian GP: Minimum prescribed tyre pressures: 19 psi (fronts) 18 psi (rears)
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Post by racechick on Jul 25, 2017 10:36:17 GMT
I'm maybe too slow. That is food for thought. I was around the 1.18 dead mark. EEEEKS! I hate changing. But that was a lot of hampering in qualifying last year! And it was still two seconds faster than 2015.
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Post by dogued on Jul 25, 2017 11:07:44 GMT
you're the leading points scorer in the interforum qualifying section... so go with your gut
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Post by Wß on Jul 25, 2017 11:11:46 GMT
It's been about a 2.5% average drop in Q times compared to last year.
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Post by RyRy on Jul 25, 2017 12:46:14 GMT
I didn't know that Ferrari have been asked by the FIA to change their floor / rear wing trick 3 times throughout the year so far! After China they were asked and they made a small change which seemingly did nothing, they were asked again before Azerbaijan and this change was a fair bit bigger and this helped but still didn't satisfy the FIA so at Austria they were made to add a strengthening plate/arm which satisfied the FIA and apparently stosp teh rear wing from doing what it was doing early on in the season.
That combined with the oil burning warnings from the FIA (to all teams) appear to have removed Ferrari's straight line speed performance that was noticeable before on all of the previous tracks, for the last two races in Great Britain & Austria it's been very clear that Mercedes is now the leaders in this area.
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Post by Wß on Jul 25, 2017 14:33:53 GMT
Wow, just realized that there's been four races since Ferrari's last win. Worse still that it would have been four wins in a row for Mercedes had it not been for the headrest issue in Baku. It really is a must win for them here.
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Post by London on Jul 25, 2017 20:58:54 GMT
I didn't know that Ferrari have been asked by the FIA to change their floor / rear wing trick 3 times throughout the year so far! After China they were asked and they made a small change which seemingly did nothing, they were asked again before Azerbaijan and this change was a fair bit bigger and this helped but still didn't satisfy the FIA so at Austria they were made to add a strengthening plate/arm which satisfied the FIA and apparently stosp teh rear wing from doing what it was doing early on in the season. That combined with the oil burning warnings from the FIA (to all teams) appear to have removed Ferrari's straight line speed performance that was noticeable before on all of the previous tracks, for the last two races in Great Britain & Austria it's been very clear that Mercedes is now the leaders in this area. Did they lose it in high speed corners too ?
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Post by Wß on Jul 25, 2017 21:09:27 GMT
Heard a blurb the other day about the fact that 60% of the down force from these new cars is coming from the diffuser. So the sealing/moveable floor would have been a hit on high speed cornering, the collapsing rear wing would have been a hit to high straight line speed.
I think all of the tire issues we saw with Mercedes earlier on had to do with removing the trick hydrolic suspension after Ferrari's asking for the rules to be clarified. It's been quite a bit of tit for tat this year.
Red Bull's recent gains are also rumored to be due to a collapsing series of front wing elements. It's just been brutal.
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Post by London on Jul 25, 2017 21:52:49 GMT
Wß - By 'hit' you mean success right ? So by what you say. Is it true to say that if Red Bull had succeded the chassis and the aero part, we would have had a three-way title fight from the first GP in Australia ? Or Red Bull can have the best aero package and chassis, as long as they will not have enough power, they will not compete with Mercedes and Ferrari except on the less-power sensitive tracks ?
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Post by London on Jul 25, 2017 22:03:00 GMT
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Post by Wß on Jul 25, 2017 23:09:45 GMT
Wß - By 'hit' you mean success right ? So by what you say. Is it true to say that if Red Bull had succeded the chassis and the aero part, we would have had a three-way title fight from the first GP in Australia ? Or Red Bull can have the best aero package and chassis, as long as they will not have enough power, they will not compete with Mercedes and Ferrari except on the less-power sensitive tracks ? By hit I mean a hindrance. So the summary is: Mercedes and Red Bull lose their trick hydrolic suspension Ferrari loses their floor, and rear wing Mercedes and Ferrari lose the oil burn, although Mercedes seems to have been impacted far less for it Now Red Bull is being questioned for their front wing elements compressing at speed
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