ichabod
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Post by ichabod on Jun 23, 2016 17:25:46 GMT
Just a point on Immigration Those who come from outside the EU are generally the people with the skills that we require, and have to apply for work visas ect, if the commit a crime we can deport them. Those who arrive from within the EU we have no control over
Anybody from anywhere in the world can arrive in the UK without a visa and apply for asylum.
It isn't the Immigrants from the rest of the world that are the problem it's the unskilled EU economic migrants that are.
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Jun 23, 2016 17:29:01 GMT
Post by Wß on Jun 23, 2016 17:29:01 GMT
It all starts with blaming the Poles.
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Jun 23, 2016 21:48:55 GMT
Post by Wß on Jun 23, 2016 21:48:55 GMT
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Jun 23, 2016 22:04:57 GMT
Post by racechick on Jun 23, 2016 22:04:57 GMT
I'm watching the result programme. No areas declared yet. First results in around 1 ish.
Consensus is that remain will get a narrow victory.
There's talk about Conservatuve MP's ( including Boris) writing a letter of support to Cameron and saying he must continue. He's been damaged by this and they're trying to shore him up. He's lied. I'd never vote for him now. I think they see a problem looming post referendum.
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Jun 23, 2016 23:23:58 GMT
Post by racechick on Jun 23, 2016 23:23:58 GMT
Couple of big results in, Newcastle and Sunderland and it looks a little more optimistic for leave. Very early days though.
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Jun 24, 2016 0:45:04 GMT
Post by Wß on Jun 24, 2016 0:45:04 GMT
Gibraltar is staying?
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Jun 24, 2016 0:51:36 GMT
Post by racechick on Jun 24, 2016 0:51:36 GMT
Surprisingly yes. LOL
It's looking like Scotland ( but not as much as was expected) want remain. The north of England massively for leave . London will be strong remain, as will some other big cities. Postal votes mainly for leave.
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Jun 24, 2016 3:49:14 GMT
Post by racechick on Jun 24, 2016 3:49:14 GMT
We're out.
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Post by LRW on Jun 24, 2016 4:14:51 GMT
Oh Jesus RC. What have you done?!
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Jun 24, 2016 4:15:27 GMT
Post by Hammer on Jun 24, 2016 4:15:27 GMT
DAMNNN. Gold went up like 80 bucks today, I opened my platform and saw all my trades liquidated. Thank you GB!
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Jun 24, 2016 4:26:24 GMT
Post by dogued on Jun 24, 2016 4:26:24 GMT
BREXIT should mean that my AUD will be stronger against the GBP.. which is handy as my work has a 50,000 pound contract to pay in the next 30 days! It's already gone from 0.51 pounds to 0.54 in the last 18hrs. My boss WILL be happy!
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Jun 24, 2016 4:27:12 GMT
Post by Hammer on Jun 24, 2016 4:27:12 GMT
Hmm after catching up a bit, this is still just a BBC projection right? The news should become official in only 12 hours or so? Nice summary for non-GBiers. Brexit factbox A referendum was held to decide whether Britain should leave or remain in the European Union. This article is designed to be an easy-to-understand guide. The results are expected between 2pm and 4pm Malaysia time. Read The Star Online for the results. 1. What is a referendum? A referendum is basically a vote in which everyone (or nearly everyone) of voting age can take part, normally giving a “Yes” or “No” answer to a question. Whichever side gets more than half of all votes cast is considered to have won. 2. Why is a referendum being held? Prime Minister David Cameron promised to hold one if he won the 2015 general election, in response to growing calls from his own Conservative MPs and the UK Independence Party (UKIP), who argued that Britain had not had a say since 1975, when it voted to stay in the EU in a referendum. Mr Cameron said: “It is time for the British people to have their say. It is time to settle this European question in British politics.” 3. What does Brexit mean? It is a word that has become used as a shorthand way of saying the UK leaving the EU – merging the words Britain and exit to get Brexit. 4. Who wants the UK to leave the EU? The British public are fairly evenly split, according to the latest opinion polls. The UK Independence Party, which won the last European elections, and received nearly four million votes – 13% of those cast – in May’s general election, campaigns for Britain’s exit from the EU. About half of Conservative MPs are also in favour of leaving. 5. Why do they want Britain to leave? They believe Britain is being held back by the EU, which they say imposes too many rules on business and charges billions of pounds a year in membership fees for little in return. They also want Britain to take back full control of its borders and reduce the number of people coming here to live and/or work. 6. Who wants Britain to stay in the EU? Cameron wants Britain to stay in the EU. Sixteen members of his Cabinet also back staying in. The Conservative Party has pledged to be neutral in the campaign – but the Labour Party, SNP, Plaid Cymru and the Lib Dems are all in favour of staying in. US president Barack Obama also wants Britain to remain in the EU, as do other EU nations such as France and Germany. 7. Why do they want Britain to stay? Those campaigning for Britain to stay in the EU say it gets a big boost from membership – it makes selling things to other EU countries easier and, they argue, the flow of immigrants, most of whom are young and keen to work, fuels economic growth and helps pay for public services. 8. So would Britain be better in or out? It depends which way you look at it – or what you believe is important. Leaving the EU would be a big step – arguably far more important than who wins a general election – but would it set the nation free or condemn it to economic ruin?
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Jun 24, 2016 4:45:33 GMT
Post by racechick on Jun 24, 2016 4:45:33 GMT
It's pretty definite Hammer. We're out. Only about 20 areas left to declare and it won't change anything. All the talk on the BBC is about what will happen next, What will happen to Cameron etc.
I've been dithering about buying gold for ages, it's just gone up by 7% damn!! I did change some money yo Euros the it her day, but the Euros not doing well.
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Jun 24, 2016 5:13:52 GMT
Post by RyRy on Jun 24, 2016 5:13:52 GMT
I'm very very dissapointed. It appears the midlands, those north of the M4 swung the vote which we couldn't pull back. It was level peggings pretty much everywhere else. Scotland 62% wanted to remainIreland 55% wanted to remainWales 52% wanted to leaveEngland wanted to leave (dunno the percent yet) - The pound sterling is at it's lowest since 1985, falling a massive 10%
- Will Scotland demand another referendum to leave the UK in order for them to stay in the EU?
- Will Ireland want to demand a referendum to leave the UK just like Scotland in order for them to stay in the EU?
- What will happen 6 months, 1 year, 2 years down the line if it turns out to be a bad move? Will we want to try and get back in the EU?
- Will the prime minster David Cameron step down? If so who will take over?
- UK voting turnout was 72%, would it have been much higher if it wasn't raining?
- UBS predicts FTSE 100 to open 19% down
- The leave vote's win appears to be mainly because of voters who live north of the M4
- London was a clear cut 60% to remain
- What would the results have been if voting was mandatory, how many of the people who didn't vote want things to stay as they are rather than take unknown risks?
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Jun 24, 2016 5:23:20 GMT
Post by Hammer on Jun 24, 2016 5:23:20 GMT
Fundamentalists who believe in the UK and their policies would be in BUYBUYBUY mode, so don't worry about the drop in currencies it shouldn't last long.
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Jun 24, 2016 5:28:16 GMT
Post by dogued on Jun 24, 2016 5:28:16 GMT
Hammer as long as it lasts about 15 days, we'll be happy. Just went over the exact figures and 24hrs has saved us $4500. A little bit more of a drop and we'll be very happy. Then it can bounce back
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Jun 24, 2016 6:20:01 GMT
Post by racechick on Jun 24, 2016 6:20:01 GMT
They've just said sterling has stabalized against the dollar. RyRy Scotland and London wanted remain. Wales wanted leave just ...and Ireland remain just. But through the rest of England it was a pretty resounding vote for leave. there suggesting Cameron doesn't stand down at the moment because stability is now required, but it's obviously on the cards. As is Corbyn's leadership. It was actually a very high turn out and high use of postal votes. Much higher than a general election turnout.
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Jun 24, 2016 6:38:27 GMT
Post by dogued on Jun 24, 2016 6:38:27 GMT
racechick except for the fact many many many postal votes didn't make it to overseas voters in time.
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Jun 24, 2016 6:46:01 GMT
Post by racechick on Jun 24, 2016 6:46:01 GMT
Oh did you not get yours??
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Jun 24, 2016 7:31:44 GMT
Post by racechick on Jun 24, 2016 7:31:44 GMT
Cameron's resigned, but staying till October to see things through. Wants a new leader to negotiate the exit.
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